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I don't have a solution because I don't think that there is a solution for some nutjob getting his hand on a weapon and going crazy.

Say that guns weren't even in existence. Do you not think he couldn't have walked in that room with a couple of machetes. There is no cure for crazy.

Then you'll just have to step aside and let reasonable minds try.

TIA

Or I could just keep posting and tell you to go fvck yourself.

You still pissed because I made a joke about your daughter. Get over it

Based on the posts of many on this forum, they would see this as proof that we should never have bothered with early alarm systems and shelters because people were going to die anyway. We can never stop tornado deaths so why try? Why should I be 'punished' by spending my tax dollars on alarm systems and shelters for others? I'm a responsible law-abiding citizen and I have my own storm cellar.

I am not really arguing in favor of throwing police at the problem. I do find it interesting (seriously, just interesting) that people who are normally rabidly anti-tax are willing to 'sacrifice a little liberty' by throwing billions of taxpayer dollars at this, but aren't willing to 'sacrifice a little liberty' through any meaningful gun control legislation. Even though reasonable firearms regulations, even strict ones, would have so little effect on your day-to-day life.

I personally don't mind the gun or firearm regulation. It doesn't hurt me any because I can get them with or without regulation, of course I'm not going to shoot a bunch of innocent people with them. I'm just not with throwing a bunch of cops and metal detectors in elementary schools and the rest of the schools in the country. I've admitted that maybe it helps a little if you make it more expensive to get the guns or at least harder to get them. Hey I've said that it wouldn't hurt, but I don't think it stops the problem. I personally don't think you can stop a nut from pulling something like this if he's hellbent on doing it, especially if he knows he's going to blow his brains out at the end of it.

There's too many out there for the government to regulate. Regulation just isn't gonna happen. Maybe the future sell of them so if anyone wants them, they better get them.

I understand the sentiment on trying to find a solution from keeping these things from happening, I really do.

I have just been trying to say, and I think you agree, that shit like this can't be stopped without severely making our lives different in ways people can't even fathom. You can't keep some random skitzo from finding a way to walk in a room and shocking the nation. There is no solution to curing crazy.

No, he could not have broken into a locked building, killed 6 adults, and then slaughtered 20 children with a machete. Unlikely with a revolver either. Guns with big magazines (never mind 30 round magazines) give you extra power.

But you don't have to end ALL violence to seriously REDUCE it. We focus on extreme tragedies like this but there are 30,000+ gun deaths (never mind people who are shot and live, the numbers are staggering) a year in the United States. If we could stop 10,000, 15,000, 20,000, why not try? You'd probably be shocked by how many people don't have to pass background checks to get a gun. Most Americans believe you should have to pass a background check to get a gun. So why does the NRA fight so hard against it? Would background checks stop every person from getting a gun illegally? Of course not! Would it stop some of them? YES! Are we taking away anyone's guns? NO! So why not do it?

Where do you not have to get a background check to get a gun?

The streets is the only place that I can think of.

I can't get a pistol . Every single place with a license to sell firearms requires a background check.

Edit: Most of the people that pull off this crazy shit are people that have no criminal record whatsoever.

Son, when you're out witted, you can call names but it gives you less credibility then you already have.

I thought we agreed you had no solution so you would step aside in this debate. All you've become is white noise.