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1984

  • All over again.

    OBAMACARE...Let's take a
    Look:

    ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

    ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's
    bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

    ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all
    union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now- ACORN).

    ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

    ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

    ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

    ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

    ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

    ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an
    end-of-life order.

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  • USMCAG said...

    All over again.

    OBAMACARE...Let's take a Look:

    ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

    ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

    ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now- ACORN).

    ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

    ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.

    ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

    ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

    ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

    ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

    Have you read 1984?

    Jack Passion

  • rms02d said...

    When do we get our giant "telescreens" from Obama? I want to make sure Big Brother is watching me at all times in order to keep me safe.

    Access to your bank account comes close.

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  • rms02d said...

    When do we get our giant "telescreens" from Obama? I want to make sure Big Brother is watching me at all times in order to keep me safe.

    Win the victory over yourself. Love Big Brother.

    Jack Passion

  • USMCAG said...

    Access to your bank account comes close.

    I assume access to the bank account is for people that are going to be signing up for the government planned health insurance.

    Jack Passion

  • Jack Passion said...

    I assume access to the bank account is for people that are going to be signing up for the government planned health insurance.

    You know what they say about assuming.....

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  • USMCAG said...

    You know what they say about assuming.....

    Well since you didn't clarify...

    Jack Passion

  • Jack Passion said...

    Well since you didn't clarify...

    It's written clearly in the OP, why do I need to clarify?

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  • USMCAG said...

    It's written clearly in the OP, why do I need to clarify?

    The government already has access to that information if you're using medicaid, I don't see the big deal.

    Jack Passion

  • USMCAG said...

    It's written clearly in the OP, why do I need to clarify?

    Because "The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts," and "The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts if they are signed up for the government healthcare plan," are not the same thing.

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  • I see the access to the back accounts for those on government assisted healthcare to be no different than the Patriot Act. If Republicans don't think that overstepped our individual freedoms, I am not sure why they can assume this will.

    Note: I am a Democrat and had no problem with the Patriot Act. Yes, I did not think it was Consitutional, but I understand that times do change and our founding fathers could not know everything that would happen in the future.

    It's no different that the governmeant seasing money from your paycheck to pay towards child support and certain items that they already do for people that have problem making the payments themselves on a regular basis.

    BetterOff

  • BetterOff said...

    I see the access to the back accounts for those on government assisted healthcare to be no different than the Patriot Act. If Republicans don't think that overstepped our individual freedoms, I am not sure why they can assume this will.

    Note: I am a Democrat and had no problem with the Patriot Act. Yes, I did not think it was Consitutional, but I understand that times do change and our founding fathers could not know everything that would happen in the future.

    It's no different that the governmeant seasing money from your paycheck to pay towards child support and certain items that they already do for people that have problem making the payments themselves on a regular basis.

    Every ounce of me disagrees with all of that. The government has no place in those areas.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Every ounce of me disagrees with all of that. The government has no place in those areas.

    The good news is that the government is not taking away any of our rights. The bad news is that they don't have to because we are willingly handing them over.

    The governement can now do A,B,C, D, etc. The majority response: I don't have a problem with that. You tin foil hat guys worry about everything.

    VTSmitty

  • VTSmitty said...

    The good news is that the government is not taking away any of our rights. The bad news is that they don't have to because we are willingly handing them over.

    The governement can now do A,B,C, D, etc. The majority response: I don't have a problem with that. You tin foil hat guys worry about everything.

    Yep.

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  • VTSmitty said...

    You tin foil hat guys worry about everything.

    what are you trying to say....

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  • hillbillyzombie said...

    what are you trying to say....

    We must shop at the same place.

    VTSmitty

  • If Obama wins a second term, God only knows what America will look like in 2016.

    trojanNorCal

  • USMCAG said...

    Every ounce of me disagrees with all of that. The government has no place in those areas.

    You disagree with the patriot act?

    Jack Passion

  • trojanNorCal said...

    If Obama wins a second term, God only knows what America will look like in 2016.

    Probably a place where health care is cheaper and fairer, student loan reform has passed, and gay people have marriage rights.

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  • joetheogre said...

    Probably a place where health care is cheaper and fairer, student loan reform has passed, and gay people have marriage rights.

    And unemployment is rampant because lazy people can live off the government, our guns taken away, overcrowding due to free medical care for illegals, and our relationship with israel is non existant, while obama bows to more islamic nations.

    trojanNorCal

  • trojanNorCal said...

    And unemployment is rampant because lazy people can live off the government, our guns taken away, overcrowding due to free medical care for illegals, and our relationship with israel is non existant, while obama bows to more islamic nations.

    Fox News and Glenn Beck are terrible ways to get your information.

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    joetheogre

  • I dont watch fox news. Its just common sense.

    trojanNorCal

  • USCMAG:

    You took me off my hiatus because I had to post ITT.

    The entire thing you posted was untrue,internet BS.

    Also, go read 1984.

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  • USMCAG said...

    Every ounce of me disagrees with all of that. The government has no place in those areas.

    Sorry to hear that. I'm all for having deadbeats get wages garnished and getting my lines tapped in order to catch people that are actually doing something wrong. Give a little to get a little:)

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  • trojanNorCal said...

    our guns taken away

    This would be great news!!!

    Guess I know how to vote this election now!

    BetterOff