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Deeper and best aren't the same.... FSU is deep doesn't mean best.... just means have good depth....

Amen, and as good as VT is on D we are miles ahead of them

Lets not forget Amerson on NC ST, he kept a bunch of WR's in the ACC from pilling up numbers

Dude had 13 picks last year, an average of one a game

That's not just one team bud, it's your champion. Also, in the case of the Va Tech team that got thoroughly penetrated by Stanford, a team that didn't lose an ACC game.

Again you are using 1 team to base an entire conference on.... is that right....

Who was bragging? Va Tech is an even bigger joke than Oregon. Both s**t the bed when the lights come on but Va Tech likes to get blown out.

I'm saying the defenses in the ACC aren't s**t outside of FSU.

and your dad can beat up my dad, etc, etc.

See I think you are wrong though and let me tell you why

Player wise we spit out some of the best defenders year in and year out

VT was down that year on D, I swear

But schools like BC always play hard nosed D, look at that white kid at LB they have coming out and imo they have another who got hurt who is more talented than him

VT will field a very nice top 10 defense this year

FSU is out of this world talented and top 5 for sure, maybe nations best

UNC is reeling now but just recently they were pouring guys into the draft from defense at all levels

UVA is really building something nice on defense as London continues to get his players

GT and Clemson are certainly capable given location and Clemson's obvious ability to recruit with anybody for some mysterious reason ( sike... we all know its money )

The rest kind of come and go and we all have are scrubs but god forbid Miami wakes up for the ACC will be a very tough defensive league, more so than the PAC-12 for sure imo....... the ACC is no doubt an overlooked defensive league and its cause we haven't had any big wins nationally thanks to Miami and FSU going through all kinds of transition and VT well, being VT when it comes to big games.... the Chokies

I agree with your points.

And normally, USC's defenses are above everyone else in the conference. Utah will be pretty good too, imo.

Im not condemning Lee/Woods, or USC. Im just saying that the opportunity to succeed, for that wr corp is better than some of the others.

When you add Matt B. to the equation its hands down a better situation than having, Boyd, Bray, or even EJ. Matt B. was sacked less than 10 times last yr, and thats not a knock. USC is a wr factory, so Lee/Woods are definitely cream of the crop.

No offense, but there have been USC fans that even said the run gm struggled. If you cant run the ball in the SEC or even the ACC, you're not lighting anybody up in the passing gm.

I remember Auburn fans bragging in 2004 about beating VT in a bowl game ('05)....and the entire region out there voting for the Tigers as the "People's Champions" because of it, lol.

Never mind that USC beat them the first game in the season, with a brand new offensive line and first time starters in the entire backfield, lol.

Did i miss something here or are you guys putting defense in the same sentence with ACC and Pac12?

I won't debate that they are buliding, but understand that you could say that teams like ucla, utah, and Arizona state are building strong defenses. Until its proven on the field it's just talk, and on the field PAC and ACC defenses have been average.

If you look at NFL production by recent ACC and PAC guys they are very similar.

Also, the broad was talking about us playing Va Tech to start the 04 season.

Yeah I think everyone knows that its just a matter of time until FSU and Miami claim whats theirs. I'll give you the nod for potential in the future no doubt.

Were really the only team in the PAC that can put out that kind of defense, and since 08 we haven't done that.
Cal put plenty of talent on that side of the ball but they won't put it together to be good, and that D staff is up at UW now. Maybe UW could do it like they did in the 90's, but I won't believe it until I see it.