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31 STRAIGHT Months of Less Govt Workers

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    One also has to be laid off for no fault of their own and is intended to aid them until they get until another job of similar stature. They can't just be like "hey! I don't want to work for [insert time frame here]" and collect. It's retarded to have a laid off worker displace themselves entirely from their most beneficial role for a lesser job because of some misplaced conservative principle.

    90% of the welders I know operate exactly this way. Small sample of the nation's workers, sure, but plenty of people milk the system for every dime they can.

    This post was edited by Shankopotamus3924 on 3/9/2013 at 3:53 AM

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    One also has to be laid off for no fault of their own and is intended to aid them until they get until another job of similar stature. They can't just be like "hey! I don't want to work for [insert time frame here]" and collect. It's retarded to have a laid off worker displace themselves entirely from their most beneficial role for a lesser job because of some misplaced conservative principle.

    Happens a lot, actually. That extra $150 a week from the gov't allows them to work for cash on the side, not pay taxes on side work, and work less than 40 hours a week. Sure it is less money but people get content with it and our government allows them to file for extensions and get a check every week for 2 years.

    Id say that unemployment is abused more than welfare and probably by a large margin.

    This post was edited by justinboze on 3/9/2013 at 5:23 AM

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  • Sir Mix A Lot said...

    This is great. Now if we could quit paying them for 60 years for 30 years work.

    Explain your statement here.

    You talking about pensions, pay scale, or something else?

    WRobins

  • USG could definitely trim some expenditures, but the cuts will be offset by the govt's propensity to keep lurking into other arenas where they should not venture.

    WRobins

  • WRobins said...

    Explain your statement here.

    You talking about pensions, pay scale, or something else?

    Pensions my friend. My brother just got hired as a cop. He needed my info so I could be a benificiary. So if he works for 30 years, they are going to pay him for the rest of his natural life, then continue to pay his family members after his death. Sounds like a sound financial decision on their part.

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  • Sir Mix A Lot said...

    Pensions my friend. My brother just got hired as a cop. He needed my info so I could be a benificiary. So if he works for 30 years, they are going to pay him for the rest of his natural life, then continue to pay his family members after his death. Sounds like a sound financial decision on their part.

    I understand what you are saying. I left private workforce to join usg civilian side. Both offered pension as a benefit. Pay scale on private side was much better, but health insurance and stability of future where better w/ USG. So, in order to even be competitive for better employees (which I presume I am), then USG needed to offer same/better pension to accompany my other benefits. Obviously, now the stability of the employee is in question, but given my work, I feel stable as my work cannot be outsourced and is very sensitive.

    USG has some employees that could not pump their own gas, but we have some who are very top notch. DARPA and other agencies are just a few examples. In order to get these top quality ppl, you have to match commercial market. So, as long as USG matches commercial market, I do not foresse an issue with offering a pension. Several other indutries offer the same pension as well.

    WRobins

  • WRobins said...

    I understand what you are saying. I left private workforce to join usg civilian side. Both offered pension as a benefit. Pay scale on private side was much better, but health insurance and stability of future where better w/ USG. So, in order to even be competitive for better employees (which I presume I am), then USG needed to offer same/better pension to accompany my other benefits. Obviously, now the stability of the employee is in question, but given my work, I feel stable as my work cannot be outsourced and is very sensitive.

    USG has some employees that could not pump their own gas, but we have some who are very top notch. DARPA and other agencies are just a few examples. In order to get these top quality ppl, you have to match commercial market. So, as long as USG matches commercial market, I do not foresse an issue with offering a pension. Several other indutries offer the same pension as well.

    This. Essentially governments of all levels are saying that they can't pay you what you should get now but we will promise to pay your for a long time after you retire (early).

    It definitely came back to bite many in the butt when they made benefit guarantees on projections prior to the recession. Lol.

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