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  • Mitch Again said...

    If he had even a below-average/bad game as he did against Bama, we would have beat ND.

    But you didn't. It's not like our offense was really clicking either.

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  • TrojanWarrior1 said...

    I'll slow down for you because apparently this is too complex for you to understand.

    Michigan has talent all over the field, The challenge?

    The SCHEME relies on ONE PLAYER.

    In our next lesson I'll teach you how to color and stay inside the lines.

    Tell me coach, why does our scheme rely on just one player? I can't seem to pinpoint why.

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  • Mitch Again said...

    Tell me coach, why does our scheme rely on just one player? I can't seem to pinpoint why.

    Because Hoke was not going to change an offensive system that was already in place with players that fit that scheme. He could try and force the players into a different system, however, that would just be another excuse for you to fall back on like a crutch.

    Notice how Urban is doing the same thing with the talent that was left in Tressel's wake? Go ahead and tell everyone that aOSU has no talent either.

    This post was edited by TrojanWarrior1 on 10/7/2012 at 3:06 PM

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  • BetterOff said...

    I think we are splitting straws here honestly. Michigan and/or Michigan St were all along with Ohio, Baylor, and Iowa St as the possibles for #25. Michigan had the most impressive win and got the nod. I don't think anyone would think anyone in that 21-30 range has really proved anything major.

    Yes, both have been beaten down by top 10 teams. If you compare the only other thing we know, their common games went very differently, even though both were losses. Don't think it is anything to worry about. Both teams are playing for standings now. The rankings don't matter for each right now..

    I completely agree with you about the Sugar Bowl. Those last 1 or 2 at large picks are always popularity contests. Michigan won out because they were going to bring more people and bring more money to the game. The same thing was the case between Virginia Tech and Kansas St or Baylor. It came down to $$. There may be bias in the voters, but it's not nealy the same as with these bowl selection committees.

    To be fair, many of the teams in the top 25 haven't proven anything either. What has USC proven? That they can beat Syracuse and lose to Stanford? Or Louisville or Rutgers or Boise State or Texas A&M? Many (most) of the teams in the rankings are there simply because they are zero or one loss teams without any consideration of who they've played. At least half of them will be gone from the list by the end of the season.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 10/7/2012 at 3:06 PM

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  • TrojanWarrior1 said...

    Because Hoke was not going to change an offensive system that was already in place with players that fit that scheme. He could try and force the players into a different system, however, that would just be another excuse for you to fall back on like a crutch.

    Notice how Urban is doing the same thing with the talent that was left in Tressel's wake? Go ahead and tell everyone that aOSU has no talent either.

    You are inferring so many incorrect and unrelated things that I wont even begin to delve into this. I actually watch our games and I know our schemes, philosophies and personnel far better than you. The talent gap starts and stops in the trenches. It doesn't get any simpler than that. I already explained why the talent we have all over the field was neutralized, but I guess you don't address the points you can't refute.

    You can hate on Michigan all day if that makes you feel better about already having a failed season with your stud quarterback not winning the Heisman or the National Chip.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    To be fair, many of the teams in the top 25 haven't proven anything either. What has USC proven? That they can beat Syracuse and lose to Stanford? Or Louisville or Rutgers or Boise State or Texas A&M? Many (most) of the teams in the rankings are there simply because they are zero or one loss teams without any consideration of who they've played. At least half of them will be gone from the list by the end of the season.

    I wouldn't say half. Find 12 or 13 teams that could replace them. That would be hard to do. Point taken though.

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  • Mitch Again said...

    You are inferring so many incorrect and unrelated things that I wont even begin to delve into this. I actually watch our games and I know our schemes, philosophies and personnel far better than you. The talent gap starts and stops in the trenches. It doesn't get any simpler than that. I already explained why the talent we have all over the field was neutralized, but I guess you don't address the points you can't refute.

    You can hate on Michigan all day if that makes you feel better about already having a failed season with your stud quarterback not winning the Heisman or the National Chip.

    LMAO!!!

    I'm not the one hating on UM...I'm giving them more credit than you are. The talent is there. The scheme sucks. Bama had all fall to prepare for the scheme. They took away Robinson and that renders your offensive scheme worthless. Notre Dame followed the same game plan.

    Auburn did it to oregon when they played.

    Ohio St. did it to Oregon when they played.

    The scheme sucks when facing good defensive lines...it makes playing defense that much easier when you do not have to respect the passing game.

    No Excuses.

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  • TrojanWarrior1 said...

    LMAO!!!

    I'm not the one hating on UM...I'm giving them more credit than you are. The talent is there. The scheme sucks. Bama had all fall to prepare for the scheme. They took away Robinson and that renders your offensive scheme worthless. Notre Dame followed the same game plan.

    Auburn did it to oregon when they played.

    Ohio St. did it to Oregon when they played.

    The scheme sucks when facing good defensive lines...it makes playing defense that much easier when you do not have to respect the passing game.

    No Excuses.

    At this point I'm just taking all your posts as seriously as I consider Skip Bayless' opinions. You continue to repeat yourself and use unrelated info after I already countered your retarded fucking arguments.

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  • Mitch Again said...

    At this point I'm just taking all your posts as seriously as I consider Skip Bayless' opinions. You continue to repeat yourself and use unrelated info after I already countered your retarded fucking arguments.

    Sometimes the truth hurts.

    Learn to deal with it.

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  • TrojanWarrior1 said...

    Sometimes the truth hurts.

    Learn to deal with it.

    Sometimes my dick penetrates your mother.

    Learn to deal with it.

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  • Mitch Again said...

    Sometimes my dick penetrates your mother.

    Learn to deal with it.

    Was that supposed to make me mad or alleviate your anger?

    Either way...I own you.

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  • Mitch Again said...

    Sometimes my dick penetrates your mother.

    Learn to deal with it.

    Dude. Come on. Are we 12?

    Not too often TrojanWarrior wins the class battle. biggrin

    This post was edited by BetterOff on 10/7/2012 at 3:45 PM

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  • BetterOff said...

    Dude. Come on. Are we 12?

    Not too often TrojanWarrior wins the class battle. biggrin

    I'm 13

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  • Mitch Again said...

    I'm 13

    How cute. Still counting the lil curlies on the soap big guy?

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  • BetterOff said...

    I wouldn't say half. Find 12 or 13 teams that could replace them. That would be hard to do. Point taken though.

    Yeah, true. That's part of the problem. We haven't seen enough quality games to separate out the ones that probably belong in the 11-25 range. IMO Alabama is clearly #1. Then you have another 3-5 teams that clearly have stood out. After that, take your pick. Is Rutgers clearly better than Nebraska? I know if I was a coach and really needed a W, I would much rather play Rutgers. But Rutgers is 5-0 and UNL is 4-2 so Rutgers is ranked.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Yeah, true. That's part of the problem. We haven't seen enough quality games to separate out the ones that probably belong in the 11-25 range. IMO Alabama is clearly #1. Then you have another 3-5 teams that clearly have stood out. After that, take your pick. Is Rutgers clearly better than Nebraska? I know if I was a coach and really needed a W, I would much rather play Rutgers. But Rutgers is 5-0 and UNL is 4-2 so Rutgers is ranked.

    Nebraska is surrendering points as fast as the gas prices are rising at the pumps in Southern California. If I'm an opposing coach I'm calling Lincoln and staying on the line until the ink dries on the contract.

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  • Scum arguing which 2 loss team deserves to crack the rankings....HAHAHAHAHAHA

    Ps. How's your season going?

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  • Urban Buckeye said...

    Scum arguing which 2 loss team deserves to crack the rankings....HAHAHAHAHAHA

    Ps. How's your season going?

    It's going great. Defense is looking more dominant every week and Denard looked like the Denard of 2010 Saturday. We definitely aren't going to lose any more games.

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    It's going great. Defense is looking more dominant every week and Denard looked like the Denard of 2010 Saturday. We definitely aren't going to lose any more games.

    Scheduled Purdue for the rest of your games?

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    We definitely aren't going to lose any more games.

    no That's a pretty bold statement. You do have MSU and OSU, correct?

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  • D-Mo said...

    no That's a pretty bold statement. You do have MSU and OSU, correct?

    Correct.

    OSU is definitely our toughest game left on the schedule imo. It'll be a tough game but I do think we pull it out.

    I'm not even worried about MSU anymore. They look very pathetic this season.

    Nebraska.... Meh.

    Rest of the B10 is pretty bad.

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    Michigan would beat the shit out of the Ohio Bobcats, they should definitely not be ranked ahead of us.

    Just like Penn State would? roflmao

    dkerns

  • dkerns said...

    Just like Penn State would? roflmao

    I'm not sure what you're referencing, I never said Penn State would beat Ohio. Really not sure what you're talking about.

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  • Mitch Again said...

    You are a fucking moron. Re-read your first few sentences. Our talent was close to theirs but we lost because our entire offense was one player? Sounds like a talent gap to me.

    If you want me to specify, the talent gap in the trenches was wider than your vag. We got manhandled on both sides. When that happens in any game at any level, nothing else matters. You will lose every time. A good receiver is worthless if a quarterback never has time to throw to him and a good LB is ineffective if the O-linemen are out to block him on every run.

    Or maybe you just don't understand football shrug

    Only at TSUN can you hold on to a loss with such pride.
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  • RabidWolverine said...

    I'm not sure what you're referencing, I never said Penn State would beat Ohio. Really not sure what you're talking about.

    Penn State said they'd be Ohio too. Look how that turned out. headslap

    This post was edited by dkerns on 10/7/2012 at 4:46 PM

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