The Blue Board

First, that's a big IF. And, second, what beliefs? I'm pretty sure schools in the B12 are involved with stem cell research, too. If ND is not joining the B10 because some of the schools do stem cell research, they will not be joining the B12 either. Or is the B12 considering a ban on stem cell research, because I must have missed that?

OK.. First, adding FSU/Clemson gives the Big 12 the ability to have a conf championship game. I'm sorry, but why in Gods name would they not be looking to get to 12 to add that game? Dodds is a coward and a jackass(UT AD who wants things his way and as easy as possible) Not having that title game will hurt the Big 12 in the grand scheme, regardless of what system we go to.. Adding two teams seems like a no brainer.

Second, 20 Million is still more than what the ACC pays right now, but thats just on the surface. FSU/Clemson both stand to gain the most when they leave because they'll have control of their tier 3 rights. For both schools that means atleast 3-5 Mill more a year.

So now you're talking about atleast 23-25 mill a year for both teams. That's alot more than 17 Mill, which wont' happen for another 6 years anyways. With those numbers, the buyout is paid off in three years, and thats if it were going to stay at 20 Million to leave, which its not.

Then you get teams like OU, Texas, OSU, TT, TCU, WVU coming to Tally, instead of Wake Forrest, Maryland, Duke, etc.. That will finally have FSU selling out its stadium again, which again means more money and exposure.

So you have 8 Mill more a year. You have a conference that gets national respect and isn't the butt of jokes like the ACC. You have REAL games week after week, and you get out of a basketball conference with a jackass commish.. No brainer.

Him trying to carry Oklahoma, who usually has a good team, with us to the Pac 10 in 2010 suggests he isn't a coward. How is he a jackass? Is it because he does what he thinks is best for his school? Show me a single AD in the country who doesn't do the same.

You're either operating on bad information or out of jealousy. Which is it?

Its a pointless game at the end of the year that can only hurt your conference, Playing a round robin where everyone plays each other during the year makes more sense instead of game against the two supposed best teams int the conference. Its stupid.

Which AD/conference commissioner is actively working against their best interest in an attempt to grow the sport as a whole? If one exists, I have never heard of him.

When has Dodds ever said that he's against expansion in any form and thinks it's a bad idea? He's publicly courting Notre Dame ffs, so it's pretty obvious he's not against expanding with the right targets. He seems to be against expanding with some hangers on, when this conference is full of them, just to get some magic number.

Let's pretend, though, that he is against adding any teams at all no matter who they are. Texas only has 1 vote. If Texas wants something and nobody else in the conference does, it doesn't happen. If the conference commissioner and a majority of other ADs decide to act against what they truly feel to be in their best interest on this issue, whose fault is that?

That's the problem. UT has them over a barrel. UT can refuse to sign the 13 year GOR if it doesn't get its way. It's exactly what UT has done as long as the B12 has been in existence and it's exactly why Nebraska, Colorado, TAMU and Mizzou left.

You should probably quit repeating that, which has been debunked repeatedly, if you want to be taken seriously.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to dis Pitt and maybe they make more sense for someone like the B12 than the B10 (which already has PA in our footprint), but it's not like they are obviously better than Louisville or Maryland. Tell me which school's football team will do better over the next 30 years. Otherwise, I don't see a big difference.