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Alabama v ND titles.

  • I tried posting a a thread about this article on TOS, but was accused of trolling, don't know why I even bothered.

    Anyway after reading this not saying I completely agree with it, but if Alabama were to claim titles the way ND does, would people give Alabama less crap about our titles if we claimed the ten listed in this article?

    Also interested in my fellow Bama fans response to it.

    This post was edited by TroyTide on 12/5/2012 at 1:38 PM

    Notre Dame-Alabama National Titles: For The Record

    Alabama was advertised as vying for its “15th national title and Notre Dame its “12th.” Is that really accurate? It depends on how you want to spin it.

    notredame.247sports.com

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  • TroyTide said...

    I tried posting a a thread about this article on TOS, but was accused of trolling, don't know why I even bothered.

    Anyway after reading this not saying I completely agree with it, but if Alabama were to claim titles the way ND does, would people give Alabama less crap about our titles if we claimed the ten listed in this article?

    Also interested in my fellow Bama fans response to it.

    ND only claims consensus national titles. They should be adding 1 more in the next few weeks. rockon

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  • Notre Dame gets prissy and takes some of our titles away because we lost the bowl game the same year. Yet they claim NC'a when not even playing in some bowls cause "Bowls don't matter". We have more AP,BCS and UPI titles than they do and every school claims them so put that in their pipe and smoke it.

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  • D-Mo said...

    ND only claims consensus national titles. They should be adding 1 more in the next few weeks. rockon

    I know, remember? I linked the article. And even asked a question about it.

    TroyTide

  • Mr.Stache said...

    Notre Dame gets prissy and takes some of our titles away because we lost the bowl game the same year. Yet they claim NC'a when not even playing in some bowls cause "Bowls don't matter". We have more AP,BCS and UPI titles than they do and every school claims them so put that in their pipe and smoke it.

    Oklahoma and Texas claim national titles in which they lost their bowl game.

    ND and Auburn claim national titles in which they didn't play in a bowl

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  • In before someone bases their entire argument on Alabama championship fallacies on one year.

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  • TroyTide said...

    I know, remember? I linked the article. And even asked a question about it.

    I do know. I was just commenting.
    No I didn't read the article this time because I have read it before, on this board.
    If all schools ONLY claim consensus titles, then there should be no problems. Correct?

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  • If you need this much explanation on who won the title in a paticular year the "title" isn't worth much anyway.

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  • D-Mo said...

    I do know. I was just commenting. No I didn't read the article this time because I have read it before, on this board. If all schools ONLY claim consensus titles, then there should be no problems. Correct?

    Except ND claims two titles(1930,1973) that weren't consensus, so......

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  • "just as Alabama does with its “15.” "

    See! Even the Notre Dame writers know there's no hope for the Irish.

    This post was edited by BetterOff on 12/5/2012 at 2:19 PM

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Except ND claims two titles(1930,1973) that weren't consensus, so......

    1973
    *Alabama: Berryman, UPI
    Michigan: National Championship Foundation, Poling
    *Notre Dame: AP, FB News, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation, NFF
    Ohio State: FACT, National Championship Foundation, Poling
    Oklahoma: Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Sagarin

    1930
    *Alabama: Football Research, Parke Davis
    *Notre Dame: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Dunkel, Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis, Poling

    Looks consensus to me. Next

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  • BetterOff said...

    "just as Alabama does with its “15.” "

    See! Even the Notre Dame writers not there's no hope for the Irish.

    You might want to delete your comment

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  • D-Mo said...

    1973 *Alabama: Berryman, UPI Michigan: National Championship Foundation, Poling *Notre Dame: AP, FB News, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation, NFF Ohio State: FACT, National Championship Foundation, Poling Oklahoma: Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Sagarin

    1930 *Alabama: Football Research, Parke Davis *Notre Dame: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Dunkel, Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis, Poling

    Looks consensus to me. Next

    1973 is an interesting year.

    There were four undefeated teams: ND, OSU, Michigan and Oklahoma.

    Michigan and OSU tied each other. Oklahoma tied USC (Ohio State crushed USC in the Rose Bowl).

    ND finished undefeated and untied.

    Bama making any claim to '73 is a complete joke.

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  • D-Mo said...

    1973 *Alabama: Berryman, UPI Michigan: National Championship Foundation, Poling *Notre Dame: AP, FB News, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation, NFF Ohio State: FACT, National Championship Foundation, Poling Oklahoma: Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Sagarin

    1930 *Alabama: Football Research, Parke Davis *Notre Dame: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Dunkel, Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis, Poling

    Looks consensus to me. Next

    I'm guesing you didn't actually attend Notre Dame. lol at not knowing the definition of consensus.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    I'm guesing you didn't actually attend Notre Dame. lol at not knowing the definition of consensus.

    By that rational, am I to believe you didn't attend Bama since you can't spell?

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  • D-Mo said...

    By that rational, am I to believe you didn't attend Bama since you can't spell?

    Uh no. A spelling error can be caused by just mistyping something. Lacking the knowledge of the definition of a word only points to one thing.

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  • Another ND-Bama message board pissing contest

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Uh no. A spelling error can be caused by just mistyping something. Lacking the knowledge of the definition of a word only points to one thing.

    So, I know the definition of the word. What is your definition of the word, professor?

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    I see this is going nowhere...

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  • Below is a list of the national champions of college football from 1869–present (with the exception of 1871, in which no games were played) deemed to be chosen by "major selectors" as listed in the official NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records.[8] Many teams did not have coaches as late as 1899. "Consensus" selectors in the official NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records correspond to the period from 1950 to present which began with the introduction of the two poll system upon the appearance of the Coaches Poll in 1950. Selectors used to determine teams listed as "Consensus National Champions" in the NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records include the AP Poll, Coaches' Poll, Football Writers Association of America, and the National Football Foundation/College Football Hall of Fame.[18]

    The first contemporaneous poll to include teams across the country and selection of a national champions can be traced to Caspar Whitney in 1901.[10] The last retroactive selection was made by Clyde Berryman in 1989 (Notre Dame). The tie was removed from college football in 1995 and the last consensus champion with a tie in its record was Georgia Tech in 1990. The 1947 Michigan Wolverines are often credited with a national championship on the basis of a "free poll" conducted by an AP sportswriter after the 1948 Rose Bowl, though that poll was unofficial and it is not recognized in the official NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records.[6]

    Note that the Harris Interactive Poll (2005–present) is contracted by the BCS to help formulate its standings, and although its final ranking which occurs prior to the bowl games is listed in the official NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records, it does not conduct a final poll or award or name a national champion on its own and so has been eliminated.

    This is how the NCAA decides a 'consensus' champion. By NCAA definition, ND was consensus national champs in 1930 and 1973 (Alabama in '73 as well. ND was AP and Bama UPI)

    Enough arguing BamaLives, we have a pretty important game coming up. Next time you are in Chicago, you can come to my office and check out my ND degree if it makes you feel better.

    Go Irish! Tide Rolled

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    This post was edited by BamaLivesFootba on 12/5/2012 at 3:12 PM

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  • Princeton 28 = most championships

    What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

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  • scinsc5 said...

    Princeton 28 = most championships

    That is true. I believe Yale was next with 27

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  • who cares.

    Bama 24 - ND 10 - that's all that is going to matter in a month.

    :)

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  • D-Mo said...

    That is true. I believe Yale was next with 27

    IVY, IVY, IVY, IVY

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