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Wendel Clark said...
How does being an aclu lawyer relevant at all? And NCs are a fairly recent phenomenon, as CFB used to be a lot more regional and people cared about winning their conference/beating their rival.
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bigwilly64 said...
Win % is just as subjective when you have to consider strength of schedule, conference schedule, etc. Take Wisconsin for example....it seems like they don't have to play several big boys in Big 10 a good amount of seasons. How is that?
What about a team that loses 4 regular season games, but wins the conference title game....you actually put more stock in that than an NC? Oooookkkkk.....
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thejumper5 said...
It should be pretty obvious by now that people are going to favor the criteria that shows that their team is the best. Michigan fans will favor wins; Bama fans will favor championships; Oklahoma fans will favor post-WW2 success and claim that anything prior to that is basically a different sport; Notre Dame fans will claim "Tradition"; and other teams will make other claims.
What it comes down to is that you cannot objectively prove what school has been the most successful. It is literally impossible.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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thejumper5 said...
It should be pretty obvious by now that people are going to favor the criteria that shows that their team is the best. Michigan fans will favor wins; Bama fans will favor championships; Oklahoma fans will favor post-WW2 success and claim that anything prior to that is basically a different sport; Notre Dame fans will claim "Tradition"; and other teams will make other claims.
What it comes down to is that you cannot objectively prove what school has been the most successful. It is literally impossible.
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bigwilly64 said...
Win % is just as subjective when you have to consider strength of schedule, conference schedule, etc. Take Wisconsin for example....it seems like they don't have to play several big boys in Big 10 a good amount of seasons. How is that?
What about a team that loses 4 regular season games, but wins the conference title game....you actually put more stock in that than an NC? Oooookkkkk.....
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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WillyWolverine said...
That's why i put win percentage as number one.
National championships lose a bit of luster to me when a team can go undefeated and not get a national title. See 2004 Auburn and 1994 Penn State.
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CtrlAltDel said...
Enough with the sanctimonious drivel about the auNecks in '04 and how they "dones gots cheated."
They didn't have that impressive of a season, that is why the voters and the computers did not give them a shot at the NC. Notice that Hawaii didn't get a shot this year either, even though many thought they had an impressive year.
2004-Auburn (SEC) 9/4 vs. Louisiana-Monroe (5-6) W 31 0 9/11 @ *Mississippi State (3-8) W 43 14 9/18 vs. *Louisiana State (9-3) W 10 9 9/25 vs. Citadel (non-IA) W 33 3 10/2 @ *Tennessee (10-3) W 34 10 10/9 vs. Louisiana Tech (6-6) W 52 7 10/16 vs. *Arkansas (5-6) W 38 20 10/23 vs. *Kentucky (2-9) W 42 10 10/30 @ *Mississippi (4-7) W 35 14 11/13 vs. *Georgia (10-2) W 24 6 11/20 @ *Alabama (6-6) W 21 13 12/4 vs. *Tennessee (10-3) W 38 28
They played 6 teams with losing seasons,
one Double A team,
a 3-8 Ms. State, a 2-9 Kentucky, a 4-7 Mississippi,
2 teams with break even seasons,
played one good team twice, and finally,
they scheduled Louisiana Tech, Louisiana Monroe, & Citadel all in the same season,
bugging my eyes out at this last one:
LT, LM, and Citadel all in the same season, damn.
Impressive season? I don't think so, and not many voters did either.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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TheT12 said...
I'm not getting into this, it's been handled by every fanbase that has a legit claim so far. However, I gotta ask...why do Heismans really matter? You could take the best football player in the world, every single year, and put him on the worst team with the worst history along with his scrub teammates, and they'd still suck as a team/program. It takes a lot of guys to win, and individuality is the antithesis of winning in any team sport.
I was thrilled for Mark Ingram, but he was 1 of dozens of guys that helped us win for those 3 years. Charles Woodson was amazing, but he had a fantastic supporting cast, without which they would have stunk. Take either player and put them on the roster at Buffalo for those years and it would still be Buffalo.
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hubcitytider said...
aclu lawyers represent the whacked out liberal minority...like the protestors that marched down my street in ann arbor michigan...on a blood drive for the viet kong. um cares about conference titles because they can't beat the best of the other conferences. At alabama we care about national titles. your viewpoint is like that of jim delaney's and this protect the rose bowl crap...we don't care about the rose bowl. i did as a kid in the 70's when the pac 8,10,12 beat the ever living &^^ out of the slow over rated big 10.
as far as winning percentage. if Alabama played big ten teams in a conference it would look a little different.
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bigwilly64 said...
Wins loses a little luster when you have played 100+ games more than other schools. This game is all about championships. People can complain about varying systems that have been in place, but it doesn't change anything. UM's #1 goal going into this season is win the NC, no matter what the system or rules are that are in place.
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