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Yup.

Dude even Tom himself would laugh at this post

You need to look up and read about his relationship with Martinez

The dude has been coaching him since he was 12 and has never stopped

I understand what you are saying, but Tom Martinez is a huge reason why Tom is so good

You obviously never played QB and don't seem understand what coaching means to the position

Trust me bro, Tom Martinez is the only coach that deserves any kind of credit for Tom Brady

If you want to take the stance its just Tom being Tom you clearly don't have an appreciation for the work he has put in or the work somebody like Martinez is responsible for

And anybody in the Auburn fan base that think Loeffler deserves any credit cause he was a GA/QB coach at Michigan while Tom was there is misinformed ( that was Scott's first job fwiw as well )

Sure Tom would be great without Belicheck and maybe even Martinez

But its possible he wouldn't be as good and a QB being in a system with a coach he trusts and respects is a big deal

No where did I say Loeffler deserves credit even though Tom Brady said himself that he does deserve some credit (I can link it for you if you want). Is Peyton and Eli great because Cutcliff? After all they do work with him in the off season every once in a while? IMO Eli and Peyton are great and are helped by Cutcliff but that doesn't mean he should get all the credit for them. They did it themselves and probably would have been pretty darn good without him. If Martinez is the reason why Tom Brady is so great why is it the only great QB that I know of that works with him Tom Brady. Shouldn't every NFL QB be working with him if that is the main reason why Tom Brady became great?

You don't want any of our qb's, they suck. Actually, all California qb's suck so I don't know why youre so happy about Brady's coach. He's overrated and a rich primmadonna pussy IMO, just like the rest of them.

Also, if your owner nepotism hired idiot GM has a CA qb start for you, you will never win anything.

I know and of course Tom would say that

He isn't a jerk like that

Lots of people work with Martinez btw or have over the years, Tebow is next it sounds like

Im not really trying to give these coaches all the credit either

I said im with you on the fact Tom is beyond talented

Alright I agree with that then. Martinez coaches Tom Brady more in the off season than anyone else. I just think that people want to give everyone else the credit because Tom Brady wasn't a high pick. I read it all the time that so and so are responsible for a QB becoming great. I just see that as false. The coach only can do so much. The player has to put in the work and have the gifts to do what is asked.

Werd

John Elway is a rich spoiled pussy. If the Broncos Owner didn't hire his son Mike Shannahan they wouldve actually won some superbowls. Now Elway will hire his son and they will continue to lose.

I can't figure out why they won't hire Internet posters as talent evaluators, we spend just as much time and are clearly better than the owners sons that they hire as GMs