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  • scinsc5 said...

    I'm just playing devils advocate . Where do we draw the line?

    If you are asking me personally?

    Draw the line at assault rifles.

    Like I said, I own a .308 caliber military style assault rifle. Mainly I take it to the range and shoot at paper. I CAN and WILL use it for hunting though. I do not own a bolt action style rifle and don't feel like buying one simply to go hunt when my .308 is perfectly suitable to take hunting with me.

    No reason, IMO, for such a weapon to be banned.

    This post was edited by Marshall Nole on 1/10/2013 at 10:02 AM

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  • Marshall Nole said...

    If you are asking me personally?

    Draw the line at assault rifles.

    Like I said, I own a .308 caliber military style assault rifle. Mainly I take it to the range and shoot at paper. I CAN and WILL use it for hunting though. I do not own a bolt action style rifle and don't feel like buying one simply to go hunt when my .308 is perfectly suitable to take hunting with me.

    No reason, IMO, for such a weapon to be banned.

    hunting is irrelevent. self-defense and "militia" per the u.s. constitution are relevent

    What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

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  • scinsc5 said...

    hunting is irrelevent. self-defense and "militia" per the u.s. constitution are relevent

    Hmmm.. I was combating the argument people make here that hunting is okay. I am saying I hunt with the rifle I listed above.

    Should I be able to own the rifle I described, in your opinion?

    Marshall Nole

  • Marshall Nole said...

    Hmmm.. I was combating the argument people make here that hunting is okay. I am saying I hunt with the rifle I listed above.

    Should I be able to own the rifle I described, in your opinion?

    yes. hunting is not the issue for me. it's self-defense/militia. i support gun-rights

    This post was edited by scinsc5 on 1/10/2013 at 10:34 AM

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  • ilovelamp51 said...

    Tell that to the 22 million Americans who hunt on an annual basis.

    i meant it's irrelevent to this discussion vis-a-vis gun-rights. i believe guns should be legal for self-defens, not for hunting. if hunting was the only purpose for guns being legal, i would say they should not be legal. just hunt with bow and arrow in that hypothetical

    What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

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  • scinsc5 said...

    yes. hunting is not the issue for me. it's self-defense/militia. i support gun-rights

    More to the point - hunting isn't a relevant issue in gun rights, period. Gun rights supporters say, "2nd amendment", but the 2nd amendment doesn't mention hunting. Hence, irrelevant.

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  • DTGdawg said...

    If you'd read my comment after that, you would see you're making an ass out of yourself.

    Sincerely, Someone that knows more shit than you.

    Don't care to go back and read anything you said as you are clearly ignorant to the facts of a .223 round.. Go do some research then get back to me.

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  • Marshall Nole said...

    lol

    Hahahahah. This post made my day and it is only 8:15!!!! Thanks Gomez!!!

    I simply don't believe you know anyone involved with the Newtown shooting. This is the first time you've mentioned it and you never said a word about knowing anyone involved in the 50 other gun threads that popped up after the shooting.

    I WANT AN ANSWER TO THIS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY!

    why would i put something on the board for a child that died? sounds silly to me... I'm not on the board 24/7. sorry.

    CoachGomez214

  • azvalleybuckeye said...

    Don't care to go back and read anything you said as you are clearly ignorant to the facts of a .223 round.. Go do some research then get back to me.

    I clearly said when someone asked me "aren't all guns designed to kill?" And I said the simple answer is no. Now you just really made a complete ass out of yourself. Congrats dumbass.

    TeddyG

  • CoachGomez214591 said...

    why would i put something on the board for a child that died? sounds silly to me... I'm not on the board 24/7. sorry.

    Hey, you're not banned. Congrats

    Hurricaniac1228

  • DTGdawg said...

    I wouldn't consider myself a republican or democrat, but with the gun issue I tend to agree with most dems. You should be allowed to have a pistol and a couple of hunting rifles, but that's it. There's no reason for someone to own 30 plus guns its crazy. If you're truly using the gun for safety all you need is a pistol, not a military rifle designed to kill.

    The point of the 2nd amendment is to allow people a means to defend themselves from the government and any other threat. To that end, it is not ludicrous for a guy to own an AR-15 with 4 30-round clips and a bunch of .223 ammo (and a bunch more). Lets go through this for an avid hunter, shooter and see what would be a decent set of tools (not collecting b/c then the numbers go way up).

    .22 Ruger Mk II - great plinking pistol that is a great gun to teach someone how to shoot or to cheaply target practice a lot.
    9mm Glock (or any other brand) - all NATO countries fire 9mm, so having a 9mm makes sense as there will be plenty of ammo around should you need to use the base 2nd amendment rights.
    AR-15 - same as 9mm
    12-ga shotgun (over/under benelli) - duck hunting
    12-ga shotgun (mossberg 500 or other pump) - great all purpose shotgun, use when you are required to use a shotgun for deer hunting
    .30-06 (Remington 742) - very popular deer rifle
    Ruger 10-22 - great little .22 rifle that is easy to teach people how to shoot with and doubles as a squirrel gun (rabbits too).
    .410 shotgun - you don't start teaching a kid/wife how to shoot a shotgun with a 12-ga
    Big Bore Rifle (> .300 magnum) - yearly trip big game hunting.
    .357 revolver - the "carry gun" that you keep in your car/truck that is always ready
    .380 or ??? caliber for you own personal carry gun when you feel it is warranted.

    You can easily get to 10+ guns based on basic needs for an avid enthusiast. Now let's say you are a collector (google Charlton Heston's basement - lord he had an awesome collection), the numbers can skyrocket quickly and there is ZERO reason to not allow this of a non-felon/non-mental patient.

    Again, it all boils down to two simple facts (not opinions):
    1 - The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting, but is there to allow the people to protect themselves from the gov't. So yes an AR or AK or any other military style weapon is warranted protection by the 2nd amendment.

    2 - Criminals and psychopaths do not obey the laws, so disarming law-abiding citizens only makes the commission of their crime easier (or makes it easier for gov't to trample citizens - see pre WWII German Jews and gun registration).

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  • DTGdawg said...

    I clearly said when someone asked me "aren't all guns designed to kill?" And I said the simple answer is no. Now you just really made a complete ass out of yourself. Congrats dumbass.

    I think the one guy is confusing the .223 round with the M-4/M-16/AR design which shoots .223. The rifling of the AR/M series was designed with wounding, no killing, in mind. When you wound a soldier on the battle field, you take out 2-3 people. When you kill him, you take out 1, thus our modern military rifle (M-4, modern M-16) was not designed to kill.

    The .223 caliber bullet has been around for a long time. The popular Ruger Mini-14 shoots the .223 and is a ranch-rifle designed to fit behind the seat of a truck and shoot flat for varmints like coyotes.

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  • DTGdawg said...

    It's crazy that someone would believe that the government would kill off innocent kids, just to push their own agenda. You'd have to be pretty whacked out to believe that.

    I'm not saying this is what happened here but if you don't believe it's happened countless times throughout history then IDK what to tell you really. False flags are another example of killing innocents to pass an agenda. Pretty common practice historically.

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  • menichols74 said...

    The point of the 2nd amendment is to allow people a means to defend themselves from the government and any other threat. To that end, it is not ludicrous for a guy to own an AR-15 with 4 30-round clips and a bunch of .223 ammo (and a bunch more). Lets go through this for an avid hunter, shooter and see what would be a decent set of tools (not collecting b/c then the numbers go way up).

    .22 Ruger Mk II - great plinking pistol that is a great gun to teach someone how to shoot or to cheaply target practice a lot. 9mm Glock (or any other brand) - all NATO countries fire 9mm, so having a 9mm makes sense as there will be plenty of ammo around should you need to use the base 2nd amendment rights. AR-15 - same as 9mm 12-ga shotgun (over/under benelli) - duck hunting 12-ga shotgun (mossberg 500 or other pump) - great all purpose shotgun, use when you are required to use a shotgun for deer hunting .30-06 (Remington 742) - very popular deer rifle Ruger 10-22 - great little .22 rifle that is easy to teach people how to shoot with and doubles as a squirrel gun (rabbits too). .410 shotgun - you don't start teaching a kid/wife how to shoot a shotgun with a 12-ga Big Bore Rifle (> .300 magnum) - yearly trip big game hunting. .357 revolver - the "carry gun" that you keep in your car/truck that is always ready .380 or ??? caliber for you own personal carry gun when you feel it is warranted.

    You can easily get to 10+ guns based on basic needs for an avid enthusiast. Now let's say you are a collector (google Charlton Heston's basement - lord he had an awesome collection), the numbers can skyrocket quickly and there is ZERO reason to not allow this of a non-felon/non-mental patient.

    Again, it all boils down to two simple facts (not opinions): 1 - The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting, but is there to allow the people to protect themselves from the gov't. So yes an AR or AK or any other military style weapon is warranted protection by the 2nd amendment.

    2 - Criminals and psychopaths do not obey the laws, so disarming law-abiding citizens only makes the commission of their crime easier (or makes it easier for gov't to trample citizens - see pre WWII German Jews and gun registration).

    sounds legit to me, and i don't even like guns. i'll borrow one from you for the next Red Dawn scenario

    What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

    scinsc5 ●

  • scinsc5 said...

    sounds legit to me, and i don't even like guns. i'll borrow one from you for the next Red Dawn scenario

    In order to be effective with guns, you need to be familiar with them. The idea of holding/shooting one cannot frighten you. Guns are like insurance, you probably won't need them, but it sucks really bad when you need one and don't have it.

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  • menichols74 said...

    In order to be effective with guns, you need to be familiar with them. The idea of holding/shooting one cannot frighten you. Guns are like insurance, you probably won't need them, but it sucks really bad when you need one and don't have it.

    Sucks really bad too when things go wrong in he heat of a bad moment

    What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

    scinsc5 ●

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