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Ok, I was just wondering. I saw an article on MSNBC.com that says Trayvon Martin was shot at "intermediate range," and wondered if there was an objective number that defines it for every situation. Article is linked.

In that sense I would guess 10-25 feet, which would be odd if it were a fistfight.

nah, say zimmerman pulled away and drew his gun.

tryvon is like woah woah and backs away.

still would be self defense.

i love how this is political... under fla law there is no case

Big difference between intermediate range in a handgun shooting and rifle target shooting.

Intermediate range is considered 7 to 12 feet distance in a handgun shooting.

I think that he was asking in terms of handgun, and of this situation. Rifle is more than an order of magnitude further than a handgun. (edited to replace f for g in handgun) fat fingers

In no way is he afraid for his life if the kid is 10+ feet away.

That's called murder, even if you did just get done having a fistfight.

In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held away from the skin but close enough that it still produces powder tattooing. This type of wound is also characterized by numerous reddish-brown to orange-red lesions around the entrance to the wound.

The passage of a bullet through clothing can alter the appearance of the wound and cause the examiner to reach different conclusions regarding factors such as the range of the gunshot. When there is clothing between the firearm and the skin, you will not find soot and powder on the skin, and searing is lessened or can be prevented. Therefore, the usual methods of determining the distance of the shooter from the victim cannot be used. Whether the powder passes through the clothing depends on the material, the number of layers of clothing, and the form of the powder. Ball powder can penetrate up to three layers of clothing, while flake powder may fail to penetrate a single layer.

Do we have enough information to determine anything? I think intermediate means beyond "very close". Well what's the total range of intermediate? 6 inches - 24 inches? 6 inches - 3 feet? 3 inches - 6 feet? What's the margin for error? 6 inches? 3 feet?

So, guys....what I'm going to do is ask a vague ass question. Then, I'm going to wait for the answer that best serves my point of view. THEN, I'm going to reveal the reasoning. Everyone ready?

YAY! Let's go.

I mean, am I wrong? If you think I am, I will tuck my lengthy ding between my legs and peace.

Yeah, me too. It's 2:40, I'm surfing, reading TBB, and have a British slasher (I'm desperate) playing in the top right corner of my screen. I was hoping for more from this thread, but it seems some people sleep.