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B1G Roundtable - Off Season Edition #1: Early Schedule Analysis

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    3rd year starter at QB. NW fluke game isn't happening again, and they rolled MSU. They are 1B to Michigan's 1A for the division.

    You seriously got some bad hate for MSU. Everyone has MSU and UM as the top two division contenders.

    Sp4rt4ns

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    It is all a guess at this point. Some are better than others, but still guesses none the less.

    That's kind of the fun of the off season. We get to make wild proclamations and watch them come back to bite us in the rear. How many tOSU fans told us Rod Smith would be 1st team All B1G?

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    PSU really struggles against Iowa.

    Ferentz knew the perfect gameplan for Joe's predictable game. Hopefully BOB is different, but we'll see.

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  • shavisimo2 said...

    Ferentz knew the perfect gameplan for Joe's predictable game. Hopefully BOB is different, but we'll see.

    PSU schedule analysis please?

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    That's kind of the fun of the off season. We get to make wild proclamations and watch them come back to bite us in the rear. How many tOSU fans told us Rod Smith would be 1st team All B1G?

    I like the theme here. Mine is that someone on the Wisconsin DL will have more than 3 sacks. lol

    dustelli

  • I can't do a full writeup but I can give my quick summary.

    Michigan goes 9-3
    Losses to Bama, NEB, OSU
    -Bama is a terrifying monster and my only hope is to keep it close.
    -It's going to be a hostile environment after the drubbing we gave them last year.
    -The game and it's played in the shoe. Lord help us.

    Michigan State goes 10-2
    Losses to Michigan, Wisconsin
    -They're playing in the Big House and Michigan will have a huge chip on their shoulder.
    -I just think Wisconsin is better overall team than MSU. State's offense is pretty weak and I don't think it's possible to stop Wisconsin's offense.

    Nebraska goes 8-4
    Losses to Wisconsin, MSU, Penn State, Iowa
    -Wisconsin is simply the better team
    -Same as above
    -This is mostly a gut pick. I don't have much of a reasoning behind it.
    -Afternoon games at Iowa are always a nightmare.

    jimtaco

  • jimtaco said...

    I can't do a full writeup but I can give my quick summary.

    Michigan goes 9-3 Losses to Bama, NEB, OSU -Bama is a terrifying monster and my only hope is to keep it close. -It's going to be a hostile environment after the drubbing we gave them last year. -The game and it's played in the shoe. Lord help us.

    Michigan State goes 10-2 Losses to Michigan, Wisconsin -They're playing in the Big House and Michigan will have a huge chip on their shoulder. -I just think Wisconsin is better overall team than MSU. State's offense is pretty weak and I don't think it's possible to stop Wisconsin's offense.

    Nebraska goes 8-4 Losses to Wisconsin, MSU, Penn State, Iowa -Wisconsin is simply the better team -Same as above -This is mostly a gut pick. I don't have much of a reasoning behind it. -Afternoon games at Iowa are always a nightmare.

    I see MSU as more likely to lose to Nebraska than to lose to both UM and Wisconsin, for the simple reason that Nebraska is directly AFTER those 2 games. I know that night game against UW took a lot out of the Spartans and they were flat in Lincoln the next week. I could see something similar happening, though the game is at Spartan Stadium and it's Nebraska coming off a night game against Michigan. So who knows.

    I am excited at how competitive the conference looks. Pretty much any combination of games involving Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State and Nebraska will "move the needle".

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • I do like the fact that Iowa isnt being given a chance to win the conference. It seems thats when we do the best. I dont think we are a very good team but its not out of the realm of possibilities for the Hawks to go 6-2, possibly even 7-1 in conference. (Im predicting 5-3) But with our easy conference schedule there is a possibility of 6-2 being good enough to tie for the division and if the chips fall right win the tiebreaker.

    Again in no way am i saying Iowa will or should win the division but I do think its possible..

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  • I wasn't high on the Hawkeyes last year, but with Vander... having a year under his belt, Iowa is a very solid sleeper pick for the division.

    xxmgobluexx

  • dkhawkeye7 said...

    I do like the fact that Iowa isnt being given a chance to win the conference. It seems thats when we do the best. I dont think we are a very good team but its not out of the realm of possibilities for the Hawks to go 6-2, possibly even 7-1 in conference. (Im predicting 5-3) But with our easy conference schedule there is a possibility of 6-2 being good enough to tie for the division and if the chips fall right win the tiebreaker.

    Again in no way am i saying Iowa will or should win the division but I do think its possible..

    Iowa could/should start 5-0. Northern IL at Soldier Field, ISU, Northern Iowa, Central MI and Minnesota at home before a bye.

    After that, it's @MSU, PSU, @Northwestern, a stretch that Iowa is likely to go 1-2 or 2-1 as opposed to 3-0 or 1-3. @IU should be a W. Purdue at Kinnick should be a W. @Michigan is likely a loss, and then you finish up with Nebraska at home.

    6-2 looks like your upper limit, with 5-3 more likely. That also requires that you don't trip up vs. Northwestern, Indiana or Purdue, a trio that Iowa evidently hasn't gone 3-0 against since 2001.

    As for discounting Iowa, you lose a lot off of last year's not-so-great team, including most of the DL, the star RB (with no clear replacement), the star WR (ditto, though maybe Davis) and the best OL. I think Iowa's OL will be fine, but the Hawks are best when they have a very good to great DL. I just don't see it this year.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Never said i thought we'd be good... but noone saw an 8-0 2002 season or a 7-1 2004 season (with our 5th string RB)...

    Let me hang my hat on something here rocky

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    PSU schedule analysis please?

    Ohio Sep. 1 University Park, PA TBA - Game will be tougher than many would think because it's a MAC team. They're pretty good and PSU is the ultimate unknown quantity. I think PSU starts slow and it's tight at half, then PSU pulls ahead by a little in the second half for a semi-comfortable win.

    Virginia Sep. 8 Charlottesville, VA TBA - An early road test. I actually think UVA will be slightly favored. I think PSU can handle the Cavs though and pull this one out as well.

    Navy Sep. 15 University Park, PA TBA - Don't know much about them aside from the scheme. Don't know much about our new defensive philosophy either, other than it will be more aggressive. That might not be a good thing against the triple option. I think PSU pulls this one out as well though.

    Temple Sep. 22 University Park, PA TBA - Temple lost a good bit this year. I think PSU has a more comfortable win here than they did the past two seasons.

    Illinois Sep. 29 Champaign, IL TBA - I don't think the Illini will be very good. I think PSU wins.

    Northwestern Oct. 6 University Park, PA TBA - See Illlinois.

    BYE WEEK

    Iowa Oct. 20 Iowa City, IA 8 pm - Tough to play there at night. I think PSU has a good bit more talent. I also think that every year. Ferentz knew Joe's gameplan solid. He will no longer have that luxury. I think PSU wins. I know I have them at 6-0, but I doubt that happens. While I think PSU should win all 6 games, they're such an unknown quantity, they easily could drop a couple. I don't think any of the games will be terribly easy. No Coastal Carolina's or Eastern Illinois' this year.

    Ohio State Oct. 27 University Park, PA 6 pm - A game of two unknown quantities. Braxton should be even better, but we'll see. Team looked lost last year, but I doubt that continues with Urbs at the helm. Night game at PSU. Should be a close one.

    Purdue Nov. 3 West Lafayette, IN TBA - Feels like a huge trap game coming off two night games and having a trip to Lincoln on the horizon. Would not be terribly surprised at any outcome here at this point.

    Nebraska Nov. 10 Lincoln, NE TBA - I'm not a huge fan of the Huskers, but I think it will be one of the toughest games on the schedule. Nobody wants to play in Lincoln (except opposing fans who want a great road trip). Will be a stiff test.

    Indiana Nov. 17 University Park, PA TBA - Must win. Should win.

    Wisconsin Nov. 24 University Park, PA TBA - I think they are better than PSU. Hopefully O'Brien isn't a great fit there even though he's only got to be a game manager. He's not Russell Wilson. However, he doesn't have to be Russell Wilson. Glad the game is at home.

    I think 8-4 is about right for this team. The offense can't be worse, especially with real coaching. The defense will be a question mark. The secondary is depleted, any injuries will be devastating. The DL is very strong, but lacks depth. Again, injuries will be killer here. The LBs should be pretty stout. Luckily the passing attacks in the B1G aren't anything to write home about and should prevent the team from being exposed in the secondary.

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  • NEBRASKA

    vs Southern Miss 9/1

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: None

    -Outlook: After going 12-2 (6-2) last season, including an impressive 49-28 beatdown of Houston, the Golden Eagles look to get a marquee win right off the bat. I don't know enough about So Miss to really attest to how they're going to looking coming into the season, but I expect Nebraska to be ready. We have to replace a few All-American level guys on Defense (Crick, David, Dennard), but we should have more support from the offense to cover our ends. It will likely be closer than fans would like, but home crowd and better overall talent gives Nebraska the edge to pull away late.

    -Percentage: 80%

    @ UCLA 9/8

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Rice

    -Outlook: Being pumped as a bit of a larger game because it'll be Mora's first test as the Bruins' head coach. Their game against Rice in Week 1 likely won't speak much to their capabilities, but Nebraska should give them a solid measuring stick. I think Nebraska comes in to UCLA as a slight favorite, and comes out on top. I look for this game to be a bit more interesting in 2013.

    -Percentage: 85%

    vs Arkansas State 9/15

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Oregon, vs Memphis

    -Outlook: With Auburn's Malzahan taking the HC position at Arkansas State, this MAY get a 15 second highlight on ESPN that night. But I wouldn't count on it. There's no reason Nebraska shouldn't handle the Red Wolves in this game. Granted, there's always the chance of another South Dakota State for Nebraska.

    -Percentage: 90%

    vs Idaho State 9/22

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Air Force, vs Black Hills State

    -Outlook: If we don't win, I'll never post online again.

    -Percentage: 99%

    vs Wisconsin 9/29

    -Last Season: Wisconsin handled Nebraska 48-17.

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Oregon State, vs Utah State, vs UTEP

    -Outlook: I'm happy we get the Badgers this early in the season, on the hope that O'Brien is still ironing some things out. But he's not my concern. Montee Ball carried 30 times for 151 yards and 4 touchdowns last season. If there's one thing on Nebraska's side that needs to be mentioned from last year, it's the turnovers. Martinez threw three interceptions, and they were practically back-to-back-to-back. They absolutely killed Nebraska.

    This year, I expect a far closer game. For one, we're at Nebraska. Getting away from Wisconsin is worth a few points in itself. Take away Wilson, add in a little more experience -- and I don't think we'll walk away with a major loss, though a loss is almost likely.

    -Percentage: 40%

    @ Ohio State 10/6

    -Last Season: Nebraska won in the biggest comeback in Husker history, winning 34-27.

    -Previous 3 Games: vs California, vs UAB, @ Michigan State

    -Outlook: A lot went Nebraska's way last year in pulling off that win. If Braxton Miller doesn't go down, we don't win. It's that simple. Bauserman handed us the game on a silver platter. This season, I anticipate a loss. It's at Ohio State, and I expect Urban to make Miller significantly more dangerous than he was under Tressel. And when you consider the problems Nebraska has with mobile quarterbacks, that equals disaster.

    -Percentage: 40%

    BYE WEEK

    @ Northwestern 10/20

    -Last Season: Northwestern shocked the hell out of Nebraska, a week after Nebraska handled Michigan State. The Wildcats won 28-25.

    -Previous 3 Games: vs Indiana, @ Penn State, @ Minnesota

    -Outlook: Despite being at Northwestern, I don't expect a loss here. Coming off the bye week, we'll be too healthy for them to play underdog this time around.

    Percentage: 85%

    vs Michigan 10/27

    @ Michigan State 11/3

    vs Penn State 11/10

    vs Minnesota 11/17

    @ Iowa 11/23

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    NEBRASKA

    vs Southern Miss 9/1

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: None

    -Outlook: After going 12-2 (6-2) last season, including an impressive 49-28 beatdown of Houston, the Golden Eagles look to get a marquee win right off the bat. I don't know enough about So Miss to really attest to how they're going to looking coming into the season, but I expect Nebraska to be ready. We have to replace a few All-American level guys on Defense (Crick, David, Dennard), but we should have more support from the offense to cover our ends. It will likely be closer than fans would like, but home crowd and better overall talent gives Nebraska the edge to pull away late.

    -Percentage: 80%

    @ UCLA 9/8

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Rice

    -Outlook: Being pumped as a bit of a larger game because it'll be Mora's first test as the Bruins' head coach. Their game against Rice in Week 1 likely won't speak much to their capabilities, but Nebraska should give them a solid measuring stick. I think Nebraska comes in to UCLA as a slight favorite, and comes out on top. I look for this game to be a bit more interesting in 2013.

    -Percentage: 85%

    vs Arkansas State 9/15

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Oregon, vs Memphis

    -Outlook: With Auburn's Malzahan taking the HC position at Arkansas State, this MAY get a 15 second highlight on ESPN that night. But I wouldn't count on it. There's no reason Nebraska shouldn't handle the Red Wolves in this game. Granted, there's always the chance of another South Dakota State for Nebraska.

    -Percentage: 90%

    vs Idaho State 9/22

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Air Force, vs Black Hills State

    -Outlook: If we don't win, I'll never post online again.

    -Percentage: 99%

    vs Wisconsin 9/29

    -Last Season: Wisconsin handled Nebraska 48-17.

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Oregon State, vs Utah State, vs UTEP

    -Outlook: I'm happy we get the Badgers this early in the season, on the hope that O'Brien is still ironing some things out. But he's not my concern. Montee Ball carried 30 times for 151 yards and 4 touchdowns last season. If there's one thing on Nebraska's side that needs to be mentioned from last year, it's the turnovers. Martinez threw three interceptions, and they were practically back-to-back-to-back. They absolutely killed Nebraska.

    This year, I expect a far closer game. For one, we're at Nebraska. Getting away from Wisconsin is worth a few points in itself. Take away Wilson, add in a little more experience -- and I don't think we'll walk away with a major loss, though a loss is almost likely.

    -Percentage: 40%

    @ Ohio State 10/6

    -Last Season: Nebraska won in the biggest comeback in Husker history, winning 34-27.

    -Previous 3 Games: vs California, vs UAB, @ Michigan State

    -Outlook: A lot went Nebraska's way last year in pulling off that win. If Braxton Miller doesn't go down, we don't win. It's that simple. Bauserman handed us the game on a silver platter. This season, I anticipate a loss. It's at Ohio State, and I expect Urban to make Miller significantly more dangerous than he was under Tressel. And when you consider the problems Nebraska has with mobile quarterbacks, that equals disaster.

    -Percentage: 40%

    BYE WEEK

    @ Northwestern 10/20

    -Last Season: Northwestern shocked the hell out of Nebraska, a week after Nebraska handled Michigan State. The Wildcats won 28-25.

    -Previous 3 Games: vs Indiana, @ Penn State, @ Minnesota

    -Outlook: Despite being at Northwestern, I don't expect a loss here. Coming off the bye week, we'll be too healthy for them to play underdog this time around.

    Percentage: 85%

    vs Michigan 10/27

    @ Michigan State 11/3

    vs Penn State 11/10

    vs Minnesota 11/17

    @ Iowa 11/23

    FWIW, if Nebraska loses to both Wisky and tOSU, it looks like it'll have to run the table vs. UM, MSU and PSU to have a shot at the division.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • BornToBeRed said...

    NEBRASKA

    vs Southern Miss 9/1

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: None

    -Outlook: After going 12-2 (6-2) last season, including an impressive 49-28 beatdown of Houston, the Golden Eagles look to get a marquee win right off the bat. I don't know enough about So Miss to really attest to how they're going to looking coming into the season, but I expect Nebraska to be ready. We have to replace a few All-American level guys on Defense (Crick, David, Dennard), but we should have more support from the offense to cover our ends. It will likely be closer than fans would like, but home crowd and better overall talent gives Nebraska the edge to pull away late.

    -Percentage: 80%

    @ UCLA 9/8

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Rice

    -Outlook: Being pumped as a bit of a larger game because it'll be Mora's first test as the Bruins' head coach. Their game against Rice in Week 1 likely won't speak much to their capabilities, but Nebraska should give them a solid measuring stick. I think Nebraska comes in to UCLA as a slight favorite, and comes out on top. I look for this game to be a bit more interesting in 2013.

    -Percentage: 85%

    vs Arkansas State 9/15

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Oregon, vs Memphis

    -Outlook: With Auburn's Malzahan taking the HC position at Arkansas State, this MAY get a 15 second highlight on ESPN that night. But I wouldn't count on it. There's no reason Nebraska shouldn't handle the Red Wolves in this game. Granted, there's always the chance of another South Dakota State for Nebraska.

    -Percentage: 90%

    vs Idaho State 9/22

    -Last Season: Didn't Play

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Air Force, vs Black Hills State

    -Outlook: If we don't win, I'll never post online again.

    -Percentage: 99%

    vs Wisconsin 9/29

    -Last Season: Wisconsin handled Nebraska 48-17.

    -Previous 3 Games: @ Oregon State, vs Utah State, vs UTEP

    -Outlook: I'm happy we get the Badgers this early in the season, on the hope that O'Brien is still ironing some things out. But he's not my concern. Montee Ball carried 30 times for 151 yards and 4 touchdowns last season. If there's one thing on Nebraska's side that needs to be mentioned from last year, it's the turnovers. Martinez threw three interceptions, and they were practically back-to-back-to-back. They absolutely killed Nebraska.

    This year, I expect a far closer game. For one, we're at Nebraska. Getting away from Wisconsin is worth a few points in itself. Take away Wilson, add in a little more experience -- and I don't think we'll walk away with a major loss, though a loss is almost likely.

    -Percentage: 40%

    @ Ohio State 10/6

    -Last Season: Nebraska won in the biggest comeback in Husker history, winning 34-27.

    -Previous 3 Games: vs California, vs UAB, @ Michigan State

    -Outlook: A lot went Nebraska's way last year in pulling off that win. If Braxton Miller doesn't go down, we don't win. It's that simple. Bauserman handed us the game on a silver platter. This season, I anticipate a loss. It's at Ohio State, and I expect Urban to make Miller significantly more dangerous than he was under Tressel. And when you consider the problems Nebraska has with mobile quarterbacks, that equals disaster.

    -Percentage: 40%

    BYE WEEK

    @ Northwestern 10/20

    -Last Season: Northwestern shocked the hell out of Nebraska, a week after Nebraska handled Michigan State. The Wildcats won 28-25.

    -Previous 3 Games: vs Indiana, @ Penn State, @ Minnesota

    -Outlook: Despite being at Northwestern, I don't expect a loss here. Coming off the bye week, we'll be too healthy for them to play underdog this time around.

    Percentage: 85%

    vs Michigan 10/27

    @ Michigan State 11/3

    vs Penn State 11/10

    vs Minnesota 11/17

    @ Iowa 11/23

    I didn't realize how brutal Nebraska's conference schedule is. That bye week comes at an extremely fortunate time, because NW is the ultimate upseter.

    Sp4rt4ns

  • Yeah that is the problem with the rivalry game in the B1G. In conference schedules can be so much different from team to team. We got all the heavyweights from the leaders div in year 1 and 2, which will make it incredibly hard for us to win the division. However, I do think we will challenge for it. Look out for us in 2013 and 2014, we trade OSU and Wisky for Illinois and Purdue.

    All in all loving the B1G, and excited for year 2.

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  • dkhawkeye7 said...

    Never said i thought we'd be good... but noone saw an 8-0 2002 season or a 7-1 2004 season (with our 5th string RB)...

    Let me hang my hat on something here rocky

    Seemed like there was a more "let's be bullies" attitude in those early Ferentz teams. They were such a blast to watch. The last two seasons that attitude has completely been gone. The wholesale coaching changes could not have come at a better time. There are now some chips on shoulders--I can sense it--and I think it starts with Nico Law.

    Howler