The Blue Board

The whole Bush family should go down as a disgrace to this country. H.W.'s dad laundered money for the Nazi's in American banks. Bush Sr. well who the hell can take that little shit seriously. "Invading a peaceful sovereign nation through aggression will not be tolerated!" Funny we invaded Panama a year before he made a statement similar to this. The Bush's are a joke and should be treated as such. At the same time I'm not an Obama supporter. I feel this country has lost an understanding of principles. Education sucks and folks will never learn, or maybe that's the point. We need to tone down democracy, reinforce the fact that we are a REPUBLIC and pull the federal government out of any area they do not belong.

i know... i just wanted to get that out there.

Might want to look at the poll numbers between him and John Kerry before you speak. Particularily the black vote.

Vote independent?

You mean register independent, right?

Well I am.

The numbers don't lie. I think Bush had excellent opinions on Sudan, immigration reform and to an extent Israel. But economically, he was an utter failure.

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No, you don't.

I do. And I know the odds of anyone here getting an income tax hike are pretty low at the top of the bracket.

How is Reagan top 10?

Lincoln, Washington, Kennedy, Roosevelt, Truman...I mean, he just does not fit in with that group. On the flip side, Bush should never be lumped into a category with Nixon, Harding, Johnson, Harrison and Garfield. Bush is about 30-40, somewhere in that range, mainly because he was the man in office during the financial crash which is the same reason Carter is in that range, along with a few foreign policy blunders.

Exactly, we know this, but it seems others are unaware of this fact.

I wouldn't place Bush or Obama anywhere as of yet since their terms can't be properly judged until some years after they've left office. I doubt either should be placed too highly on the list though. Reagan led the country back to prominence following the Carter debacle and when the country was feeling badly about itself following Vietnam. He reminded us of why it's great to be Americans. And, he refused to give an inch to the USSR. B/c of his leadership we saw the demise of the USSR and freedom for many who were once behind the Iron Curtain. That's real history.