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Big 10 / Pac 12 Challenge canned.

  • Landohusker said...

    Have I ever said I was happy with NU's OOC, nope. In fact I have railed against it. In fact i wasn't happy when this agreement was announced. Because there are only 2 good teams in the Pac 12. SC and Oregon. We played Washington the past 2 years and ucla this and Next year(Pac12) Easy wins.

    News flash ... you can actually schedule more than one quality OOC opponent every year. Ok, so UW was down. If you had also scheduled OU or FSU or ND of any other halfway decent team you would have been protected. Instead, you scheduled Wyoming. The last thing the B10 should do is move to 9 conference games because Nebraska is incompetent at scheduling.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 7/13/2012 at 1:47 PM

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    Then I would suggest you qualify your statement to "nut up"...which USC has built a long standing tradition of doing...continuing through numerous ADs and coaching staffs...

    I didnt say Nut up to a Sc poster. It was to a Michigan poster.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    News flash ... you can actually schedule more than one quality OOC opponent every year. Ok, so UW was down. If you had scheduled OU or FSU or ND of any other halfway decent team you would have been protected. Instead, you scheduled Wyoming. The last thing the B10 should do is move to 9 conference games because Nebraska is incompetent at scheduling.

    No one in the Big Ten schedules more than 1 quality opponent OOC. They want those home games.

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  • Yep, this sucks.

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  • Landohusker said...

    No one in the Big Ten schedules more than 1 quality opponent OOC. They want those home games.

    Ummm ... we usually schedule two. This year it's three, but moving into the future it generally is ND and one other. So, again, you're misinformed.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Ummm ... we usually schedule two. This year it's three, but moving into the future it generally is ND and one other. So, again, you're misinformed.

    I wouldnt call ND qualitylol. But your the only team that does that in the Big Ten. I actually like your OOC this year. I wish NU played it, instead of the boring schedule we play.

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  • Landohusker said...

    I don't think you read my post right.

    You asked why.I told you why they don't want to give up the 9th game.

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  • usctrojanglory said...

    You asked why.I told you why they don't want to give up the 9th game.

    I asked Why, to this.

    The Pac needs to go to 8 conference games

    This post was edited by Landohusker on 7/13/2012 at 1:57 PM

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  • Landohusker said...

    I wouldnt call ND qualitylol. But your the only team that does that in the Big Ten. I actually like your OOC this year. I wish NU played it, instead of the boring schedule we play.

    Well, it's a clear step up from the vast majority of OOC teams you play. If the toughest OOC team you have played in the past 5 years is Washington, you are in no position to question our longstanding series with Notre Dame.

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  • Landohusker said...

    I asked Why, to this.

    The Pac needs to go to 8 conference games

    Oh ok well my bad.I thought you were asking why about the 9th game.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Well, it's a clear step up from the vast majority of OOC teams you play. If the toughest OOC team you have played in the past 5 years is Washington, you are in no position to question our longstanding series with Notre Dame.

    Damn dude, you need to chill. I was giving your university a compliment. Actually in the past 5 years, the toughest team we played OOC has been Virginia Tech.

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  • Meh, I didn’t really like it in the first place. It would have been cool if they matched us up with either USC, Stanford, UW, or UO every year but there probably would have been years when we play Oregon St, or some other PAC 12 bottom dweller which would have sucked.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    It's unfortunate, but I can see where the P12 is coming from. A 9 game conference schedule makes it hard to add a B10 team every year. It leaves those teams with few options. Still, I don't want the B10 to go to 9 conference games. It kills the ability to play quality OOC opponents. I would rather see the B10 try to cut a deal with the ACC, SEC or B12 similar to the P12 deal that was just canceled. Interestingly, the B10 and SEC are the only two major conferences left that play 8 conference games. Why not hook up and have a B10-SEC challenge every year? It would be great for CFB and for every game against Alabama, LSU or Florida you also get one against Kentucky, Mississippi or Vanderbilt.

    +1, I agree 100% with this.

    I love the idea of a Big 10 - SEC challenge. Imagine:

    UM @ Bama

    LSU @tOSU

    Wisky @ Arkansas

    Georgia @ Nebraska

    MSU @ Auburn

    Florida @ PSU

    S. Carolina @ Iowa

    Tell me that's not a great set of OOC games.

    This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 7/13/2012 at 3:48 PM

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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  • Landohusker said...

    I asked Why, to this.

    The Pac needs to go to 8 conference games

    Everyone else needs to go to 9. With conferences having their own networks, you will see this happen in the next 5-6 years. It substantially increases the value of a conference network. Big-10 network would rather televise Ohio St vs Michigan St, than Ohio St vs Ball St.

    This is why the SEC can't get any more money out of CBS. Too many terrible OOC games. If the SEC goes to 9 conference games, they will get a big bump in TV contract money, and increase the value of a new SEC network

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  • MrWoodson said...

    It's unfortunate, but I can see where the P12 is coming from. A 9 game conference schedule makes it hard to add a B10 team every year. It leaves those teams with few options. Still, I don't want the B10 to go to 9 conference games. It kills the ability to play quality OOC opponents. I would rather see the B10 try to cut a deal with the ACC, SEC or B12 similar to the P12 deal that was just canceled. Interestingly, the B10 and SEC are the only two major conferences left that play 8 conference games. Why not hook up and have a B10-SEC challenge every year? It would be great for CFB and for every game against Alabama, LSU or Florida you also get one against Kentucky, Mississippi or Vanderbilt.

    WIth 9 conference games, it sets up perfectly for One's OOC. 1 strong opponent, 1 mid-level type or lower tier bcs team, and 1 scrub. The problem with the PAC-12 is that those schools, namely Stanford and Utah, would have made it tough to play a Big-10 team and another strong team. USC would do it of course, as just a few years ago not only did we have Ohio St and Notre Dame in the same season, we played them both on the road.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    +1, I agree 100% with this.

    I love the idea of a Big 10 - SEC challenge. Imagine:

    UM @ Bama

    LSU @tOSU

    Wisky @ Arkansas

    Georgia @ Nebraska

    MSU @ Auburn

    Florida @ PSU

    S. Carolina @ Iowa

    Tell me that's not a great set of OOC games.

    On vacation, not reading thread, but I'd be happy with this. Make it happen, and report back to me when I'm back in my office Monday morning. TIA

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  • Anyone know which schools were the ones against it? Seems like 4 schools pulled the plug.

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  • BetterOff said...

    Anyone know which schools were the ones against it? Seems like 4 schools pulled the plug.

    Stanford and Utah most likely, would not be surprised to see USC as well, but USC for a different reason. USC once sanctions are over, will go back to playing 2 high profile OOC games every year, and since 1 is already locked in with Notre Dame, would not want to be tied with playing a Big-10 team every year as well. From 2016-2019 we have SEC teams scheduled each year. That would be too much of a burden of a schedule, 9 PAC-12 games, Notre Dame, an SEC team, and then a Big-10 team.

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    MJRuffalo

  • MJRuffalo said...

    Stanford and Utah most likely, would not be surprised to see USC as well, but USC for a different reason. USC once sanctions are over, will go back to playing 2 high profile OOC games every year, and since 1 is already locked in with Notre Dame, would not want to be tied with playing a Big-10 team every year as well. From 2016-2019 we have SEC teams scheduled each year. That would be too much of a burden of a schedule, 9 PAC-12 games, Notre Dame, an SEC team, and then a Big-10 team.

    Texas is in there at the end of the decade as well.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Stanford and Utah most likely, would not be surprised to see USC as well, but USC for a different reason. USC once sanctions are over, will go back to playing 2 high profile OOC games every year, and since 1 is already locked in with Notre Dame, would not want to be tied with playing a Big-10 team every year as well. From 2016-2019 we have SEC teams scheduled each year. That would be too much of a burden of a schedule, 9 PAC-12 games, Notre Dame, an SEC team, and then a Big-10 team.

    I tend to agree. I liked the idea of the PAC12/B1G agreement, but it also limits you to really only playing a B1G team every year and doesn't give any room for other teams. I am sure USC wants to keep a team like Hawaii, Syracuse, or someone like that on the schedule as well and not have a OOC schedule like Texas, Michigan, and Notre Dame every year or something like that.

    I think the agreement would be cool if they decided to have 4 teams from the PAC12 play 4 teams from the B1G each year so that every 3 years you were rotating through, which would give you the other 2 years to schedule another conference team in a home and home or something like that.

    Actually, that sounds like a great idea. Anyone have Scott and Delany's number handy?

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  • BetterOff said...

    I tend to agree. I liked the idea of the PAC12/B1G agreement, but it also limits you to really only playing a B1G team every year and doesn't give any room for other teams. I am sure USC wants to keep a team like Hawaii, Syracuse, or someone like that on the schedule as well and not have a OOC schedule like Texas, Michigan, and Notre Dame every year or something like that.

    I think the agreement would be cool if they decided to have 4 teams from the PAC12 play 4 teams from the B1G each year so that every 3 years you were rotating through, which would give you the other 2 years to schedule another conference team in a home and home or something like that.

    Actually, that sounds like a great idea. Anyone have Scott and Delany's number handy?

    Who knows how this will end up. 2 years ago we had a similar informal agreement with the Big-12. Then we nearly killed the conference, so that ended.

    I liked the concept, but I did not want it with the Big-10, as that could lead to rematches in the Rose Bowl. But whatever. I would like the major conferences to do this on a 2 year deal. For one 2 yr block it could be the PAC-10 and Big-10, and the SEC vs the Big-12, next 2 yr block go PAC-12 vs SEC, and Big-10 vs Big-12, etc.... Though this all looks good on paper, it is unlikely to every unfold.

    Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

    MJRuffalo

  • MJRuffalo said...

    Who knows how this will end up. 2 years ago we had a similar informal agreement with the Big-12. Then we nearly killed the conference, so that ended.

    I liked the concept, but I did not want it with the Big-10, as that could lead to rematches in the Rose Bowl. But whatever. I would like the major conferences to do this on a 2 year deal. For one 2 yr block it could be the PAC-10 and Big-10, and the SEC vs the Big-12, next 2 yr block go PAC-12 vs SEC, and Big-10 vs Big-12, etc.... Though this all looks good on paper, it is unlikely to every unfold.

    It would be nice if that played out like that.

    I think that IF we ever get to the Super Conferences breaking away from the NCAA with an expanded playoff system, kind of like the NFL, you could see a day in which a "Commissioner's" office would mandate schedules for each team. Would be easier to do and very attractive financially for all those involved without having to share any money with the 50 or so team that would be left out.

    Not sure if that is the track I want us to go down, but the games would be great to see. Really the only way that I think conferences would agree to this rotating system that you described. In basketball, just playing the game helps you, win or lose. In football losing the game only helps if you only lost that one game and other teams lose lesser games also......oh and the money thing. Going to a 4 team playoff doesn't help that situation either. It really just gives 3 or 4 teams room to b!tch instead of just 1 or 2, IMO. Although, I like 4 better than 2.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    WIth 9 conference games, it sets up perfectly for One's OOC. 1 strong opponent, 1 mid-level type or lower tier bcs team, and 1 scrub. The problem with the PAC-12 is that those schools, namely Stanford and Utah, would have made it tough to play a Big-10 team and another strong team. USC would do it of course, as just a few years ago not only did we have Ohio St and Notre Dame in the same season, we played them both on the road.

    We play ND and Ohio State every year. And this year, throw Alabama and AF on top of that. Rumors are that USC was one of the hold outs. I understand why (i.e. 9 conference games), but it still sucks.

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  • A sad slate of Games

    2012 ranking of Big Ten OOC opponents. One of the reasons the Big Ten needs to go to a Nine conference game schedule.

    McKewon: Big Ten slate has plenty of MAC; few non-league whoppers - Omaha.com

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  • Landohusker said...

    A sad slate of Games

    2012 ranking of Big Ten OOC opponents. One of the reasons the Big Ten needs to go to a Nine conference game schedule.

    You mean to tell me you aren't pumped for New Hampshire at Minnesota!?!?!?!

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