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SpartanRocky said...
For Michigan State, the Spartans finished 11th nationally in pass D (176.93 YPG) and 18th in passing eff. D (113.27 rating, 53.87% completion allowed, 20 TDs, 18 INTs). Those #s were the result of completely shutting down poor passing offenses and facing multiple first year starting QBs. In fact, the Big 10 as a whole had outstanding pass D #s, though the passing offenses were not very good. In short, it seemed that the Spartan passing defense feasted on weak opponents, inflating their overall efficiency (as did most of the pass D's in the conference):
Wisconsin's Russell Wilson, for instance, accounted for 5 of the 20 TDs thrown against Michigan State in 2011 (and 2 INTs), while completing 68% of his total passes. At the same time, credit has to be given for not allowing sub-par passers to have even half-way decent games against the Spartans.
Last season, the back-7 featured 1 SR (FS Trenton Robinson), 2 JRs (WILL LB Chris Norman, CB Johnny Adams) and 4 Sophomores (MIKE LB Max Bullough, SAM LB Denicos Allen, CB Darqueze Dennard and SS Isaiah Lewis). That group consisted of 2 first team All B1G performers in Adams (coaches) and Robinson (media), 3 2nd team members (Bullough and Lewis - Coaches, Allen - Media) and 2 Hon. Mention players (Dennard and Norman).
This season, all but Robinson returns, making this group arguably the most decorated returning unit in the conference. Both of the Hon. Mention players missed at least 2 regular season games with injury and had great bowl games: Dennard had 2 INTs (including a Pick-6) against Georgia, and Norman had 5 tackles, 1.5 TFL and a FF. Robinson's replacement looks to be Kurtis Drummond (RS Soph, 6'1 200), who played the nickel back position last year (17 tackles, 2 INTs, 1 sack, 1 FF), though Drummond is being pushed by RS FR RJ Williamson (6'0 200).
All in all the Spartan pass defense should be solid at worst. With just 1 man to replace, the continuity is about as good as it can get, and all of the returning starters were at least above-average a year ago.
Adams and Dennard (when healthy) form a solid man-to-man CB duo, and Lewis is a headhunter with a pair of pick 6's to his name. The linebackers need to do more in pass coverage; there was only 1 INT and 7 PBUs between them. Given the overall youth last year (all 4 sophs were 1st year starters), MSU should once again have one of the better pass defenses in the conference.
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dustelli said...
short winded for you
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What do you feel about your pass rush? Obviously have quite a bit coming back, but lose some of the force inside.
Also how do you feel about some of the young guns coming on or already there from last year? i.e. someone like Thomas at LB. Still mad about D.Cox. Kind of player we really needed.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Never Lose Hoke said...
For Michigan; DE: Defensive Ends should be improved as 3(4?) Year Starter Craig Roh slides over to SDE, as opposed to WDE, to allow Frank Clark or Brennan Beyer, both Sophomores, to play at WDE. Clark and Beyer will be competing all year for the starting spot as Clark is more athletic, but Beyer has better technique and a better understanding of the D. DE's should be better, more experienced, and faster than last year.
DT: Michigan will be replacing walk-on starter Will Heinenger with former WDE Jibreel Black which, IMO, is a step up as long as Black can put on 20+ pounds by fall. Black is a lightning quick player for a DT and should be fun to watch. However, the big question on Michigan's Defense is how they will replace NT Mike Martin. Obviously the replacement will be a fairly large step down in Will Campbell. Although Campbell has reportedly assumed the role as one of the team's leaders and is taking massive strides both on the field and in the weight room. My hope is that either Campbell finally lives up to his 5* billing due to 3 D-Line Coaches or that the improvement at the other 3 positions offsets Martin's loss.
LB: Michigan's LB's will be greatly improved after returning all 3 starters and with some fresh meat in talented Freshman Joe Bolden. At SLB Michigan returns Jake Ryan, the athletic playmaker who should be improved if not physically, mentally. Backing him up will be former Safety abomination Cam Gordon who would have started last year if not for a back injury and Ryan's stellar play. At MLB Michigan returns Kenny Demens who will be starting for his 2nd and a half year. Challenging Demens for time is touted Freshman LB Joe Bolden. Bolden impressed the coaches during spring and looked solid during the Spring Game. And finally at WLB Michigan returns Desmond Morgan. Not the most athletic guy, Morgan, who is entering his Sophomore year, is a hard hitter and should improve in his 2nd season. Backing him up, and potentially challenging for the starting spot is Brandin Hawthorne, an athletic 5th year senior who played well in the spring game (Including a fantastic one handed interception) and 2 Freshman LB's; James Ross and Kaleb Ringer. Overall, Michigan's LB's will be a solid unit both in run support and in pass coverage. Compounding on to the fact that Michigan returns all 3 starters is the fact that Michigan enters its 2nd season in the same system, a first for everybody on the team.
CB: Cornerback is confusing to me. At one spot will be Blake Countess who is entering his 2nd year and will be a very solid player. At the second spot returning starter JT Floyd, who ran with the 2's this spring, will challenge Courtney Avery, Terry Talbot, and Delonte Hollowell for playing time. The Cornerbacks, while a liability recently, return everybody worth returning and will also improve to be a solid unit.
Safety: The best unit on Michigan's Defense. At SS will be 4 year starter Jordan Kovacs, who not too athletic is almost never out of position and is a sure tackler. At FS Michigan returns Thomas Gordon, an athletic playmaker who is entering his second year of starting. Backing them up will be Marvin Robinson, a hard hitting safety who struggles with keeping his assignments at times, and Freshman Jarrod Wilson who is great at pass coverage but needs to bulk up.
As a whole Michigan's Defense should improve, especially seeing as how they return the entire back 7 and the only question mark on the team is, fortunately, the position which has 3 coaches who specialize with them. The Pass Defense especially should improve the most because for the first time in a while Michigan returns everybody and has a competent DB coach and DC.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Never Lose Hoke said...
Thanks, the FR and SO are going to be big contributors on Michigan's D this year, partly because Hoke is so much better at identifying, bringing in, and developing Defensive talent than RR was.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Never Lose Hoke said...
For Michigan; DE: Defensive Ends should be improved as 3(4?) Year Starter Craig Roh slides over to SDE, as opposed to WDE, to allow Frank Clark or Brennan Beyer, both Sophomores, to play at WDE. Clark and Beyer will be competing all year for the starting spot as Clark is more athletic, but Beyer has better technique and a better understanding of the D. DE's should be better, more experienced, and faster than last year.
DT: Michigan will be replacing walk-on starter Will Heinenger with former WDE Jibreel Black which, IMO, is a step up as long as Black can put on 20+ pounds by fall. Black is a lightning quick player for a DT and should be fun to watch. However, the big question on Michigan's Defense is how they will replace NT Mike Martin. Obviously the replacement will be a fairly large step down in Will Campbell. Although Campbell has reportedly assumed the role as one of the team's leaders and is taking massive strides both on the field and in the weight room. My hope is that either Campbell finally lives up to his 5* billing due to 3 D-Line Coaches or that the improvement at the other 3 positions offsets Martin's loss.
LB: Michigan's LB's will be greatly improved after returning all 3 starters and with some fresh meat in talented Freshman Joe Bolden. At SLB Michigan returns Jake Ryan, the athletic playmaker who should be improved if not physically, mentally. Backing him up will be former Safety abomination Cam Gordon who would have started last year if not for a back injury and Ryan's stellar play. At MLB Michigan returns Kenny Demens who will be starting for his 2nd and a half year. Challenging Demens for time is touted Freshman LB Joe Bolden. Bolden impressed the coaches during spring and looked solid during the Spring Game. And finally at WLB Michigan returns Desmond Morgan. Not the most athletic guy, Morgan, who is entering his Sophomore year, is a hard hitter and should improve in his 2nd season. Backing him up, and potentially challenging for the starting spot is Brandin Hawthorne, an athletic 5th year senior who played well in the spring game (Including a fantastic one handed interception) and 2 Freshman LB's; James Ross and Kaleb Ringer. Overall, Michigan's LB's will be a solid unit both in run support and in pass coverage. Compounding on to the fact that Michigan returns all 3 starters is the fact that Michigan enters its 2nd season in the same system, a first for everybody on the team.
CB: Cornerback is confusing to me. At one spot will be Blake Countess who is entering his 2nd year and will be a very solid player. At the second spot returning starter JT Floyd, who ran with the 2's this spring, will challenge Courtney Avery, Terry Talbot, and Delonte Hollowell for playing time. The Cornerbacks, while a liability recently, return everybody worth returning and will also improve to be a solid unit.
Safety: The best unit on Michigan's Defense. At SS will be 4 year starter Jordan Kovacs, who not too athletic is almost never out of position and is a sure tackler. At FS Michigan returns Thomas Gordon, an athletic playmaker who is entering his second year of starting. Backing them up will be Marvin Robinson, a hard hitting safety who struggles with keeping his assignments at times, and Freshman Jarrod Wilson who is great at pass coverage but needs to bulk up.
As a whole Michigan's Defense should improve, especially seeing as how they return the entire back 7 and the only question mark on the team is, fortunately, the position which has 3 coaches who specialize with them. The Pass Defense especially should improve the most because for the first time in a while Michigan returns everybody and has a competent DB coach and DC.
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SpartanRocky said...
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Since we just discussed rushing defense, so let's put a conclusion on the O/D topics with a discussion on pass defense. This includes the pass rush and the back-7.How as your pass yardage and passing efficiency D last year? What needs to happen for you to improve on those #s this year? How many back 7 starters return? Who has stepped up to replace those departed starters this spring? Any cause for concern thus far?
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Zonie87 said...
Here you go guys...crazy busy, but I think this will give you a good quick overview of where the Huskers stand...
CB: Andrew Green (Jr.); Mo Seisay (Jr); A. Bell (Sr); S. Jean-Baptiste (Jr)
FS: P.J. Smith (Sr); H. Jackson (So) / C. Osborne (Sr)
SS: D. Stafford (Sr); C. Cooper (So)
NICKLE: C. Evans (Jr); B. Heard (So)
DIME: H. Jackson (So); Washington (Jr)
If Mo Seisay plays up to expectations, he was the #1 JUCO CB, this edition of the Blackshirts will be far better than last year's. We’ve seen a big increase in leadership both in the back seven in the team as a whole.
With Bo giving the defense the majority of his attention, along with the additions of Coach Kaz and Coach Joseph, the players are receiving many more reps and better instruction.
The players are much better in their S&C, they all are much more experienced, with a 2nd year or more in the system. Damion Stafford's light has turned on, which should make him vie for conference honors at SS, while Zaire Andersen should do a very credible job of replacing Lavonte David at WILL, with a seasoned MLB playing his best ball, Will Compton, showing much better play. Buck is open yet, we might see Whaley, he's a beast, move there with David Santos a big talent that is behind Compton that is has been playing very well; although Sean Fisher, orgianally a highly rated 4-star, who was badly injured, is said to "be back." If so, that would be a better LB crew than last year.
With better knowledge and familiarity with the conference opponents and one of the best recruiting classes the Huskers have had since the 90's we’ve seen the depth and talent pool needed to vie for CCG, next year, if not this.
There is solid depth right now at every position but SAM/BUCK.
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joshwfo said...
I'll add a little here if thats ok,
CB: Andrew Green has made large strides over the off season, but he still is young and makes mental mistakes. He is good in zone coverage, but is also very good at shadowing WR's and has learned not to bite on head fakes, and route recognition.
Mo Seisay has been everything he been advertised to be, gets the system already and has a frame that you can't teach. Very physical and maybe more so than Price or Dennard before him. He has great leaping ability and his break on the ball is lightning quick.
CJ Jackson, finally making it to campus this year, has been doing a lot of work with local pro's in his area and seems to be a workout warrior so to speak, time will tell if he can grasp Pelini's scheme this year, but should be used as a solid back up if needed.
Safety PJ Smith is back healthy for the first time since his freshman year, he is the cover guy on the defense. He will play center field and read the QB. He is long and rangy, and has good speed and leaping ability for jump balls. He was suspect in seasons past when tackling but has shown a tremendous improvement in that area.
Damion Stafford this kid is NFL material through and through and his position coach Joseph can't stop talking about him. He is picking off balls regularly in practice and also is known as a extremely heavy hitter. He is great on blitz's and stopping RB's out of the back field.
Nickle with Evans and Heard, both a young and have a lot to learn. Heard is the most phycically gifted and just a natural talent. This is his first year at CB and he moved over from RB to get out the log jam between AG/AA and himself. So far his natural ability has really grabbed the attention of the staff and the people watching in practice. Evan's just needs some confidence and allow the game to come to him. He thinks way to much and slows him down. But when he does show flashes he is a blanket.
Dime Jackson has this spot pretty well locked down and except for some situations with C.Cooper, is a great cover guy that brings a hitting attitude against bigger splitends and RB's.
All in all Pelini has put in a ton of time with this group over the spring... first time since 08-09. If that is anymeaning to you we were a NASTY pass defense thos years. Pelini's scheme takes a lot of smarts, and we had to sacrifice some talent for understanding last couple years, but everyone is on the same page now and its looks very likely they could be the strength of the team.
Keeping in mind the Nebraska pass defense is only as good as our front 7 and more importantly the front 4. If we can't get pressure we won't fare well in coverage. We will live and die by the ability of those guys up front and the back end will give the DL/LB more time to make plays than last year, but they still have to make plays in our 2gap system.
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