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Sucks for yall then
funny thing is this is the best point made by an SEC fan yet...
you are right sir. it does suck. but im not arguing these points as a mad nebraska fan that is scared of the SEC, bc who am i to argue this we can't even sign the minimal players we are allowed. we couldn't oversign anyone even if we tried. the point is its bad for college football. and the scholarship limits that were put into place in the 90s to "level the playing field" was clearly just another NCAA failure. shocking i know. 
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It is easy for SEC fans to laugh at us and make simple jokes about being butt hurt. Duh, why wouldn't they when they benefit from it. It's like the old saying goes, "you don't know what you've got..."
If the SEC wasn't afforded this recruiting advantage and the shoe was put on the other foot, the SEC would be the ones "butt hurt"
I also want to say this. There is a difference between cheating and unethical behavior. Or even playing on a level playing ground. When I talk about the SEC and oversigning, I never refer to it as cheating. I that happens feel free to call someone out. It's not cheating. It's just takin advantage of an uneven playing field. The unethical word that is thrown around can get touchy and I won't touch it. I don't know if these coaches have there players best interests mind... I hope they do. Often times I suspect they abandon a kid on the roster in order to make room for a better prospect, but who am I to know for sure?
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iBleedRed6801 said...
funny thing is this is the best point made by an SEC fan yet...
you are right sir. it does suck. but im not arguing these points as a mad nebraska fan that is scared of the SEC, bc who am i to argue this we can't even sign the minimal players we are allowed. we couldn't oversign anyone even if we tried. the point is its bad for college football. and the scholarship limits that were put into place in the 90s to "level the playing field" was clearly just another NCAA failure. shocking i know. This^^^
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Macdaddy7930 said...
Ohio St. has signed 68 the last three recruiting classes ('10-'12). They have 22 committed and also have nine rSR (from '09 class) next year, bringing their total to 99. Guess they will need to "force out" quite as few as well.
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MikeCaramba said...
Haven't looked over the stuff myself, so I won't argue with what you've presented, but I will say this: "Well, Urban Meyer does it too," is a pretty precarious argument to stand on. And from my perspective, you could demonstrate that every team in the country forces players out -- they may very well -- but it doesn't make the practice right.
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VegasTide said...
Can't stand I'm even getting looped into this, but...
I'd give alot more credence to the whole oversigning thing if half of the guys listed weren't starters and NEEDED in the year they were dismissed/transferred. The reason its so difficult to repeat is because players lack focus and feel entitled. Guys don't have to do a whole lot to be in Saban's dog house. If they're there, then they know it. See Duron Carter (a transfer). Even Chris Carter, his dad, stated that it was his sons fault and still respects Saban.
Therefore, if you have to "oversign" in order to feel good about booting guys that aren't playing by the same rules as the rest of the guys on the team, then I'm cool with it. I'll call foul if I see someone get the shaft that shouldn't get it. Call me a homer or blind if you'd like, but I just don't see guys getting screwed over.
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MikeCaramba said...
I'm probably misunderstanding, so I want to be clear: you think the most likely explanation here is that Big Ten coaches (many of whom came from the SEC) are simply worse at arithmetic than SEC coaches (many of whom came from the Big Ten)?
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joetheogre said...
No one has named specific examples of players who have been cut. Use Alabama or any other SEC team. Find me a player who was forced out that didn't want to leave.
Alabama's Nick Saban Twisted the Truth, Ex-Players Say - WSJ.com
Three ex-Alabama players coach Nick Saban said were leaving the team because they violated some type of team rule say it was their decision to transfer. His announcement came at a time when he was under scrutiny for offering scholarships to more players than Alabama could keep.
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NcaaAssassinG13 said...
Wasn't going to read that article until someone said did you read the article?
"3 other former Alabama players made claims that Mr. Saban and his staff had pressed them into quiting the team for medical reasons, even though their injuries weren't serious."
---Scandalous stuff right there if true.
Thank god for sites like this were these stories can be exposed, especially since there appears to be a media blackout on this type of shameful behavior by certain coaches.
Funny how the important stuff, the abuse gets ignored and and we get stupid stories about who a coach may or may note vote for in some stupid poll.
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