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  • http://247sports.com/Article/Big-Ten-superlatives-59967

    With signing day behind us, 247Sports assesses the best and worst of the Big Ten recruiting class.

    Steve Wiltfong National Recruiting Analyst 247sports.com http://twitter.com/SWiltfong247 http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=50063

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  • OG: Kyle Kalis, Ohio State
    CB: Terry Richardson, Ohio State

    Might want to correct those.

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    devidee ●

  • Kalis and Richardson, both listed as OSU but are actually UM.

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    Time and change will surely (truly) show How firm thy friendship ... OHIO!

    callen05 ●

  • CB: Terry Richardson, Ohio State

    panic

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    EF_Wolverine ●

  • Still really wish Michigan had been able to snag Voltz (or make a run at him before he enrolled at Wisconsin and after all their coaches left). That kid's gonna be a mauler.

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  • EF_Wolverine said...

    CB: Terry Richardson, Ohio State

    panic

    Urban figured we needed to steal one from you guys too just to put you in your place. flex

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  • callen05 said...

    Urban figured we needed to steal one from you guys too just to put you in your place.

    That will happen with Thomas.

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  • devidee said...

    That will happen with Thomas.

    cheers

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    callen05 ●

  • devidee said...

    That will happen with Thomas.

    /slap

    Watch your mouth.

    This post was edited by xxmgobluexx on 2/3/2012 at 12:03 PM

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  • devidee said...

    OG: Kyle Kalis, Ohio State CB: Terry Richardson, Ohio State

    Might want to correct those.

    Got it, good looking out.

    Steve Wiltfong National Recruiting Analyst 247sports.com http://twitter.com/SWiltfong247 http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=50063

    Steve Wiltfong

  • Wait minnesota signed someone named Issac Hayes? Awesome

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  • All Big Ten Team Score:
    Michigan: 5 offense and 5 defense
    Ohio: 2 offense and 5 defense

    Who really deserves that top class spot? ;)

    This post was edited by bmillerw on 2/3/2012 at 12:41 PM

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  • Kind of looking forward to watching Terry Richardson cover Burbridge for 4 years.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Kind of looking forward to watching Terry Richardson cover Burbridge for 4 years.

    Countess and Floyd have it taken care of this year, Countess the next 2 years after that.

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  • bmillerw said...

    All Big Ten Team Score: Michigan: 5 offense and 5 defense Ohio: 2 offense and 5 defense

    Who really deserves that top class spot? ;)

    When Diggs commits, you'll lose one and well gain one, back to status quo. Ha.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Countess and Floyd have it taken care of this year, Countess the next 2 years after that.

    Or Arnett for that matter.

    Countess >> Floyd.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • Richardson still has to pass Avery, Carter, Taylor, and Hollowell. Also by that time, Pipkens, Wormley, Strobel, Godin, Ojemudia, Clark, Ryan, Black... will be rushing the QB.

    Edit: meant to quote Rocky.

    This post was edited by xxmgobluexx on 2/3/2012 at 1:14 PM

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Or Arnett for that matter.

    Countess >> Floyd.

    Terry may well prove me wrong, but I would be surprised if he was ever a starting corner at Michigan. Countess is going to be starting from here on out, and Michigan is going to be hard after corners again in this 2013 class. I suspect Michigan will want a bigger corner beside Countess and I think Terry's talents may be best suited for the slot. JMO.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Or Arnett for that matter.

    Countess >> Floyd.

    Athletic ability agreed. I like a 5th year senior matched up against a true freshman though.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Richardson still has to pass Avery, Carter, Taylor, and Hollowell. Also by that time, Pipkens, Wormley, Strobel, Godin, Ojemudia, Clark, Ryan, Black... will be rushing the QB.

    At this point, all those are are HS kids with stars next to their name. They could prove their worth, or go the way of William Campbell. That's why they don't award Big 10 titles based on how many stars your team has on paper . . .

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    At this point, all those are are HS kids with stars next to their name. They could prove their worth, or go the way of William Campbell. That's why they don't award Big 10 titles based on how many stars your team has on paper . . .

    Not saying they do, but you yourself talk about needing stars to compete . . .

    Edit: Avery, Clark, Black, Ryan have all seen time on the field, Avery with the game sealing pick vs tOSU, Clark with a INT in the BCS Sugar Bowl, Ryan produced big all year as Freshman. The others, outside of the incoming Freshmen, have seen the field also.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by xxmgobluexx on 2/3/2012 at 1:36 PM

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Not saying they do, but you yourself talk about needing stars to compete . . .

    Edit: Avery, Clark, Black, Ryan have all seen time on the field, Avery with the game sealing pick vs tOSU, Clark with a INT in the BCS Sugar Bowl, Ryan produced big all year as Freshman. The others have seen the field also.

    That's in reference to "4-star talent" on the field, not in terms of recruiting. You need "4-star quality" athletes to compete; whether or not a recruiting service is able to label them such is immaterial. That you don't know till they've been on campus a few years, which is why you have to look at the program as a whole rather than just 1 class. The year MSU brought in their "best class since 2001" the Spartans went 6-7.

    I do agree that a 4-star on signing day is more likely to actually play like a "4-star" than someone labeled a "2-star", but that's not a guarantee that they're going to pan out (and, FWIW, MSU didn't bring in many 2-stars, 2 at most by the varying recruiting services). I think that highly rated recruiting classes work out better than lower-rated ones, but I just watched top 10-15 rated Michigan classes get beat on and the same things happen at FSU, ND and Texas. UGA has recruited in the top 10 every year since 2002 (till this year I believe), and they went 6-7 in '10.

    We'll know how good UM's class is in 2014 at the earliest.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    At this point, all those are are HS kids with stars next to their name. They could prove their worth, or go the way of William Campbell. That's why they don't award Big 10 titles based on how many stars your team has on paper . . .

    Guarantee that all 5 of those HS kids mentioned do not go the way of Will Campbell, who - prior this year - didn't have the benefit of 3 excellent DL line coaches available.

    And you watched those Top 10-15 ranked classes with some fairly shoddy defensive coaching get beat on. There is no guarantee that talent at the high school level sans solid to superior coaching at the college level will realize its potential. If you wish to call a spade a spade, by all means - call it a spade.

    That being said, odds are that the majority of them WILL pan out. As a matter of fact, it was myself and SuperStudSteve who had a debate about this several years ago on the GoBlueWolverine message board. I was the one who personally listed 4/5* recruits from various positions, tracked their progress, and examined their coaching.

    Regardless, point remains that championships are not awarded on paper.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by Kenetic on 2/3/2012 at 1:57 PM

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    That's in reference to "4-star talent" on the field, not in terms of recruiting. You need "4-star quality" athletes to compete; whether or not a recruiting service is able to label them such is immaterial. That you don't know till they've been on campus a few years, which is why you have to look at the program as a whole rather than just 1 class. The year MSU brought in their "best class since 2001" the Spartans went 6-7.

    I do agree that a 4-star on signing day is more likely to actually play like a "4-star" than someone labeled a "2-star", but that's not a guarantee that they're going to pan out (and, FWIW, MSU didn't bring in many 2-stars, 2 at most by the varying recruiting services). I think that highly rated recruiting classes work out better than lower-rated ones, but I just watched top 10-15 rated Michigan classes get beat on and the same things happen at FSU, ND and Texas. UGA has recruited in the top 10 every year since 2002 (till this year I believe), and they went 6-7 in '10.

    We'll know how good UM's class is in 2014 at the earliest.

    That top 10-15 rated Michigan teams were coached by 2 star coaches in RichRod and Gerg. Look what happened when they were coached by 4 star (trying to be humble ;)) coaches this year.

    Actually, look at Michigan defense this year, a Walk-on Safety, a Walk-on DT, and mainly 3 stars in other positions. I will check and edit it when I get home. Throw a better athlete in there with the quality coaching and you would expect an improvement.

    xxmgobluexx ●

  • Even though tOSU is our most hated rival, its good to see both UM and tOSU with 10 of the 11 all defensive team to bring The Game to where it should be. We all know stars dont matter in the long run, but DEFENSE does win championships!
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