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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Yeah that is ridiculous, might be the most ridiculous mess up I ever saw in terms of rankings

    Agree to disagree and we don't consider it a mess up.

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    Shut up. I am not talking to you and you will not tell me what I am and am not doing. I am asking questions regarding rankings that are mind-boggling. Stop addressing me, please.

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Agree to disagree and we don't consider it a mess up.

    Im not trying to be a jerk or nothing, as I said rankings aren't very important to me

    I realize that if anybody threw something together a million people would have something to say about almost every spot being wrong but I just don't see that one

    Having a franchise LT imo is also way more important than your run of the mill sized CB that grows on trees in the state of florida

    and personally I like Alexander better than Vernon

    But maybe you see something I don't, that is the fun in it

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    Well for starters where is Williams' 4.4? We saw him at MVP Camp and he didn't run that. Black has a confirmed time from Under Armour Combine and clearly gets seperation on film. If you want to talk camps (remember only about 10 percent) I saw him in that setting for three years and never saw him covered.

    On top of that, he was a five-star for most of the cycle until we re-adjusted at the end.

    Williams is an excellent prospect, but you are definitely seeing things we didn't.

    On film, Chris Black barely looks like a 3* player. Seriously, the kid has some of the most pedestrian film I've ever seen from a highly rated slot guy. If the rankings were solely based upon film at the WR position, we shouldn't even be having this discussion.

    Black is a smaller slot guy who isn't overly fast or elusive and his best highlights are on kick return or sweeps out of the backfield. Jaquay dominates his competition in his film, is 6'4" and 205 lbs. I mean, very slow players don't typically score 40-yard TDs in All-Star games.

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    On film, Chris Black barely looks like a 3* player. Seriously, the kid has some of the most pedestrian film I've ever seen from a highly rated slot guy. If the rankings were solely based upon film at the WR position, we shouldn't even be having this discussion.

    Black is a smaller slot guy who isn't overly fast or elusive and his best highlights are on kick return or sweeps out of the backfield. Jaquay dominates his competition in his film, is 6'4" and 205 lbs. I mean, very slow players don't typically score 40-yard TDs in All-Star games.

    lol that was certainly full retard

    Chris Black's film was awesome last year and his junior film wasn't bad either, get out of here bro

    3 star ? no, none of us really thought he belonged that high but you just went full retard

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  • BushidoNole said...

    I could understand if he was 6'2, a physical specimen like Patrick Peterson...6'2, 227, 4.38 speed

    But he's not. He's 5'10 and 180'ish.

    Laremy Tunsil is an ELITE LT, has the perfect body composition, has every possible physical attribute you would want in an LT, and he's MEAN AS SHIT. No NFL GM would ever take a 5'10 180 corner (no matter how good) over the No.1 OL in the country (assuming he was NFL draft)

    He's basically a slightly faster, more athletic Chris Black that plays DB.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    lol that was certainly full retard

    Chris Black's film was awesome last year and his junior film wasn't bad either, get out of here bro

    3 star ? no, none of us really thought he belonged that high but you just went full retard

    I've seen his film from last year several times. I understood Amari's Cooper high ranking and agreed that he should be bumped up a lot. Black is a pedestrian football player on film and in camps.

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  • BushidoNole said...

    I could understand if he was 6'2, a physical specimen like Patrick Peterson...6'2, 227, 4.38 speed

    But he's not. He's 5'10 and 180'ish.

    Laremy Tunsil is an ELITE LT, has the perfect body composition, has every possible physical attribute you would want in an LT, and he's MEAN AS SHIT. No NFL GM would ever take a 5'10 180 corner (no matter how good) over the No.1 OL in the country (assuming he was NFL draft)

    Amen

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  • trojanham said...

    On the average if a kid has 26 scholarships already with the biggest schools in the country is that deserving of a ranking in the 200.Or are the colleges evaluating the kids different than you Barton

    Hopefully Chris will move up the rankings after this weekend.

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    I've seen his film from last year several times. I understood Amari's Cooper high ranking and agreed that he should be bumped up a lot. Black is a pedestrian football player on film and in camps.

    You are wrong, the kid can play and play well

    Will he be a star ? who the hell knows, but you are hating on him way too hard cause you are angry that a Bama player was not deserving of a high ranking

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    I've seen his film from last year several times.

    This is the only drawback to recruiting sites taking off (settle down Nancy...I'm not attacking you, just your statement that I see all the time).

    You haven't seen his film. You've seen highlights.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    You are wrong, the kid can play and play well

    Will he be a star ? who the hell knows, but you are hating on him way too hard cause you are angry that a Bama player was not deserving of a high ranking

    Again, see my post regarding Amari Cooper. It's more the ridiculous discrepancy between him and Jaquay.

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    Again, see my post regarding Amari Cooper. It's more the ridiculous discrepancy between him and Jaquay.

    Yes but who cares ? now both are in college

    Their ranking is now officially meaningless yet you are still pissed about it lol

    And calling Chris Black a 3 star is just laughable made out of pure jealous hatred that you have for Bama

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 3/30/2012 at 9:07 PM

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  • mpcoan said...

    This is the only drawback to recruiting sites taking off (settle down Nancy...I'm not attacking you, just your statement that I see all the time).

    You haven't seen his film. You've seen highlights.

    My point of view is having seen the best of Chris Black. How is that difficult to understand.

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  • JC Shurburtt said...

    We would never make an adjustment based on the observations of another network at a closed camp.

    Watch the footage for yourself.

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  • I've been around a long time and I can tell you that there is a large group that considers JC to be the best at his job in this business.

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  • It's not shades of grey, the Florida rankings have been poor the last two years. Just guess work it seems.

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  • Weedline said...

    I've been around a long time and I can tell you that there is a large group that considers JC to be the best at his job in this business.

    He is, most know it

    His rankings shouldn't matter but people love to nit pick these things

    Its all part of the process

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 3/30/2012 at 9:09 PM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Yes but who cares ? now both are in college

    Their ranking is now officially meaningless yet you are still pissed about it lol

    banghead

    Eventually, the 2013 class will be in college and it "won't matter". If it doesn't matter, why do you pay money to be part of this site?

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    banghead

    Eventually, the 2013 class will be in college and it "won't matter". If it doesn't matter, why do you pay money to be part of this site?

    Cause I like seeing who the Noles get and enjoy laughing at idiots like you who cry about the most meaningless shit possible lol

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  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    My point of view is having seen the best of Chris Black. How is that difficult to understand.

    Congrats...You saw a YouTube highlight that millions of people had access to. You now have the right and ability to question a man that's known as the best at what he does in the business.

    Your parents must be proud..

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  • Bo Knows said...

    Watch the footage for yourself.

    Exactly. It's like the fact that it's on film of him destroying Golson doesn't even matter here and is inadmissible evidence because it wasn't a camp completely followed by 247.

    HowardRoarkAU

  • HowardRoarkAU said...

    Exactly. It's like the fact that it's on film of him destroying Golson doesn't even matter here and is inadmissible evidence because it wasn't a camp completely followed by 247.

    You do understand that it is almost impossible for an OL to look good in those kind of drills, right? I mean, surely you are not this stupid.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Cause I like seeing who the Noles get and enjoy laughing at idiots like you who cry about the most meaningless shit possible lol

    So player rankings are the most meaningless shit possible, yet you throw away 100 bucks a year to keep up with them...

    You seem to make good monetary decisions. I'm sure you've bought several lottery tickets.

    HowardRoarkAU

  • Weedline said...

    You do understand that it is almost impossible for an OL to look good in those kind of drills, right? I mean, surely you are not this stupid.

    Except for the OL that actually look good in those drills, right? I mean, both sides of the coin are right there on film. Sure those drills favor the DL, but to get completely thrown 5 yards through the tackling dummy shouldn't happen to an elite OL prospect either.

    HowardRoarkAU

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