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Final Countdown said...
By "you guys" I meant people who get defensive when gun control is mentioned (Which is pretty much everybody who is disagreeing with me in this thread. Admittedly, my original comment was "snarky.") I wasn't stereotyping people who own guns, just the ones who are politically zealous about the issue.
And do your really think "Get out of here, negro! You can't vote!" is the same as "Sorry sir, we're not allowed to sell that gun anymore, please choose from any of the other 300 models we sell" ???
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Final Countdown said...
By "you guys" I meant people who get defensive when gun control is mentioned (Which is pretty much everybody who is disagreeing with me in this thread. Admittedly, my original comment was "snarky.") I wasn't stereotyping people who own guns, just the ones who are politically zealous about the issue.
And do your really think "Get out of here, negro! You can't vote!" is the same as "Sorry sir, we're not allowed to sell that gun anymore, please choose from any of the other 300 models we sell" ???
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MrBlonde said...
Not sure what you are getting at. You seem acknowledge both are violations, but you contend that one is not "that bad" of a violation.
Whether you go 20 MPH or 40 MPH over the speed limit, it's still against the law.
You're saying "They can vote, but why do they need to sit in the front of the bus?"
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Nothing is ever going to get better because all anyone wants to do is fvcking argue. People on one side of the fence want to talk gun-regulation, people on the other want to talk 2nd Amendment. Sure, both will throw out that other things matter, like mental health improvements, promoting better parenting, etc., but they only say those because they feel they "have to." And we have a situation in this country where we need to have a discussion about what we can do to help curb these deadly shootings from taking place (I've stated numerous times it starts with un-taboo-ing mental health problems) and all anyone wants to talk about is their right to own an AR-15. Quite frankly, I don't give a sh!t about that issue right now. You're worried about government regulations or civil liberties or whatever, I'm worried about kids feeling unsafe in their fvcking middle schools. THAT'S the issue we should be talking about.
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We typically "blow a fuse" because we are dealing with ignorance.
1. Gun show sales are subject to background checks just sales in gun stores.
2. There is already an assault weapons ban. Semi-automatic rifles are not assault weapons.
You really don't know much about this subject. If you'd like to understand here's a video that explains assault rifles vs. semi-auto:
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Guns are already regulated. Off the top of my head...
I can't own one if I'm a felon.
I can't own an assault rifle.
I can't carry a concealed firearm without a permit.
Even with a CWP I can't carry in tons of places.Gun owners are saying that's enough.
Please give me examples of government regulating free speech and freedom of religion to that extent...
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sf2 I agree on your mental health point for the record. And from one Bama fan to another hopefully you can take what I'm about to say with a grade of saw.
The thread was created to notify board members that an organization was trying to put together a rally to inform state representatives of their concerns regarding the 2nd Amendment and attempts at violating the Constitution.
RTR
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The first things we need to do are:
1. Remove this taboo we have as a society of addressing mental illness and issues.
2. Tell people with problems that it's okay to get help.
3. Tell their friends and family to not sit idly when you know they need help; reach out to them.
4. Stop letting it be okay for people to make fun of and bully those that are different, especially when it comes to mental issues; it's 2013, it's time for us as a society to grow the F up.
5. Stop referring to them as psychopaths or crazies or weirdos and not take the attitude that we need to "get these people off the streets;" obviously that attitude does apply to some people, but we need to try and help people before throwing them in some jail or camp. We're not animals, we're human beings.
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