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Cam Newton versus Johnny Manzial

  • Everyone including me seen Cam Newton as the best SEC QB ever seen. Look at these numbers and remember that one QB is a Redshirt Freshman. Johnny Manzial could end up being the best QB the Sec ha ever seen.

    Cam Newton in 14 games
    66% completion
    2854 passing yards
    30 TD's
    1473 rushing yards
    5.58 yards per carry
    20 rushing TD's

    Johnny Manzial in 10 games (wow)
    67% completion
    2780 passing yards
    18 TD's
    1014 rushing yards
    6.5 yards per carry
    15 rushing TD's

    Johnny Football still has 4 games to add to these numbers. As a Redshirt Freshman, he's got a chance to surpass what Cam Newton did statistically. Pretty amazing.

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    DrStache

  • You forgot one stat probably the most important too.

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    kitemac

  • kitemac said...

    You forgot one stat probably the most important too.

    how much money Cam got to go to Auburn?

    This post was edited by Bills2 on 11/17/2012 at 11:15 AM

    Bills2

  • Mr.Stache said...

    Everyone including me seen Cam Newton as the best SEC QB ever seen. Look at these numbers and remember that one QB is a Redshirt Freshman. Johnny Manzial could end up being the best QB the Sec ha ever seen.

    Cam Newton in 14 games 66% completion 2854 passing yards 30 TD's 1473 rushing yards 5.58 yards per carry 20 rushing TD's

    Johnny Manzial in 10 games (wow) 67% completion 2780 passing yards 18 TD's 1014 rushing yards 6.5 yards per carry 15 rushing TD's

    Johnny Football still has 4 games to add to these numbers. As a Redshirt Freshman, he's got a chance to surpass what Cam Newton did statistically. Pretty amazing.

    The system Manziel plays in pads his stats. Cam was so much better and its really not even close.

    Bevo15

  • kitemac said...

    You forgot one stat probably the most important too.

    Which one?

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    DrStache

  • Bevo15 said...

    The system Manziel plays in pads his stats. Cam was so much better and its really not even close.

    Sorry. Can't take a Texas fan seriously when judging an aTm player.

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    DrStache

  • Mr.Stache said...

    Which one?

    I think he was talking about the national title

    Bills2

  • Bevo15 said...

    The system Manziel plays in pads his stats. Cam was so much better and its really not even close.

    Lol wtf?

    You mean the system that allows him to excel at what he's best at?

    Geez. No wonder Texas football is such underachievers.

    This post was edited by Status on 11/17/2012 at 11:57 AM

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    Status

  • Manziell is a great player. Might have a better career than Cam. But no one dominated the SEC like Cam did.

    rolltide06

  • Bills2 said...

    I think he was talking about the national title

    Oh,we'll that's why I said "statistically" and didn't factor championships.

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    DrStache

  • Manziel is a baller. I won't discount him in any way.

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  • Bevo15 said...

    The system Manziel plays in pads his stats. Cam was so much better and its really not even close.

    No doubt....With A&M's offensive scheme, you could plug any ol slap dick back there and he'd put up similar numbers.

    lol

    stir8ag

  • Bills2 said...

    how much money Cam got to go to Auburn?

    hatin

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  • Manziel is having a statistically insane year, but he only has 3 games remaining, not 4.

    The few rasons why Cam's season was/is more impressive:

    -Cam won his first SEC start on the road vs a ranked SEC opponent that finished Top 15
    -Cam answered the bell every game, which is why we went undefeated.

    *7 games vs. ranked opponents: 1,777 total yards, 25 TDs, 2 INTs (ridiculousness).

    *Rushed for 150+ yards and 2 TDs in SIX games (FIVE against SEC opponents).

    *Rushed for 170+ yards and 2 TDs in FIVE games (FOUR against SEC opponents).

    *Rushed for 185+ yards and 2 TDs in THREE games (ALL against SEC opponents).

    *Accounted for 400+ total yards and 4+ TDs twice.

    *Accounted for 350+ total yards and 4+ TDs four times.

    *Accounted for 300+ total yards SEVEN times (299 total yards vs. Georgia).

    *Accounted for 5+ TDs in 4 games.

    *Accounted for 4+ TDs in 8 games.

    WhatAboutBobby

  • WhatAboutBobby said...

    Manziel is having a statistically insane year, but he only has 3 games remaining, not 4.

    The few rasons why Cam's season was/is more impressive:

    -Cam won his first SEC start on the road vs a ranked SEC opponent that finished Top 15
    -Cam answered the bell every game, which is why we went undefeated.

    *7 games vs. ranked opponents: 1,777 total yards, 25 TDs, 2 INTs (ridiculousness).

    *Rushed for 150+ yards and 2 TDs in SIX games (FIVE against SEC opponents).

    *Rushed for 170+ yards and 2 TDs in FIVE games (FOUR against SEC opponents).

    *Rushed for 185+ yards and 2 TDs in THREE games (ALL against SEC opponents).

    *Accounted for 400+ total yards and 4+ TDs twice.

    *Accounted for 350+ total yards and 4+ TDs four times.

    *Accounted for 300+ total yards SEVEN times (299 total yards vs. Georgia).

    *Accounted for 5+ TDs in 4 games.

    *Accounted for 4+ TDs in 8 games.

    I agree that Cam was better. But Johnny Football is a Redshirt Freshman. The fact that he's so close stat wise to Cam is nuts.

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    DrStache

  • Johnny just tried to kick an XP lol

    Missed it way right tho

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    Status

  • I remember fighting with YOU Delta dawg before the season.. I tried to tell you Johnny was better than Tyler Russell

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    Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.

    Lesticals

  • Still unreal that Cam had 50 friggin' TD's.

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    Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.

    Lesticals

  • As much as I hate Cam, he was an incredible physical specimen, and obviously used it to AU's advantage. I think Manziel is a smarter player, and actually harder to contain for a "pro style" defense. I say that because it was always easy to find Cam with his size, but Manziel has the advantage of a scat back, getting lost behind his line and squirting out. 3rd and 2 was where Cam could kill a great D because of his size. 3rd and 9 is where Manziel is magic. They both have 1 thing in common for their first year with their respective programs: They both have/had a studly offensive line. I don't know if it's fair to make a call just yet, but if I were starting a program from scratch, I think I'd rather have Manziel.

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  • WhatAboutBobby said...

    Manziel is having a statistically insane year, but he only has 3 games remaining, not 4.

    The few rasons why Cam's season was/is more impressive:

    -Cam won his first SEC start on the road vs a ranked SEC opponent that finished Top 15 -Cam answered the bell every game, which is why we went undefeated.

    *7 games vs. ranked opponents: 1,777 total yards, 25 TDs, 2 INTs (ridiculousness).

    *Rushed for 150+ yards and 2 TDs in SIX games (FIVE against SEC opponents).

    *Rushed for 170+ yards and 2 TDs in FIVE games (FOUR against SEC opponents).

    *Rushed for 185+ yards and 2 TDs in THREE games (ALL against SEC opponents).

    *Accounted for 400+ total yards and 4+ TDs twice.

    *Accounted for 350+ total yards and 4+ TDs four times.

    *Accounted for 300+ total yards SEVEN times (299 total yards vs. Georgia).

    *Accounted for 5+ TDs in 4 games.

    *Accounted for 4+ TDs in 8 games.

    I like your style.

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  • Lesticals said...

    Still unreal that Cam had 50 friggin' TD's.

    51. He caught a fade against Ole Miss.

    WhatAboutBobby

  • TheT12 said...

    As much as I hate Cam, he was an incredible physical specimen, and obviously used it to AU's advantage. I think Manziel is a smarter player, and actually harder to contain for a "pro style" defense. I say that because it was always easy to find Cam with his size, but Manziel has the advantage of a scat back, getting lost behind his line and squirting out. 3rd and 2 was where Cam could kill a great D because of his size. 3rd and 9 is where Manziel is magic. They both have 1 thing in common for their first year with their respective programs: They both have/had a studly offensive line. I don't know if it's fair to make a call just yet, but if I were starting a program from scratch, I think I'd rather have Manziel.

    If you were picking which one you would rather have for 3-4 years to lead your program, why would you choose Manziel?

    If you have at least 1 decent RB, Cam basically guarantees you never have to worry about the passing game, the rushing game, the short-yardage game or converting 3rd and 5 or less for 3-4 seasons.

    The most overlooked aspect of Cam's value to our offense was that we converted EVERY SINGLE 3rd and 1 for an entire season. When you think about that, it's insane and demoralizing to defenses.

    WhatAboutBobby