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Can someone explain the race component of Manziell's arrest?

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Did he make the comment before his arrest or did his friend?
I have not gotten a clear answer and neither have the Heisman voters.
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Someone he was with made racial slurs to another guy then the altercation happened. That's all I know.
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5 months ago via 247Sports Mobile

You realize the voters have alreay voted don't you?
probably not, because you're clearly a dumbass
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what arrest?
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WRobins said...
what arrest?

Exactly, Cam was crucified for his past. This kid got in jail too and no one says a damn word.
System QB's and all.
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From what Ive read a friend of his was using racial slurs and JF was just trying to break it up, nobody said JF himself did or said anything racist.
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Status said...
You realize the voters have alreay voted don't you?
probably not, because you're clearly a dumbass

He can't ask a question?
All your fvck buddies start threads all the time. Wish you said the same chit in those threads
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SCirish843 said...
From what Ive read a friend of his was using racial slurs and JF was just trying to break it up, nobody said JF himself did or said anything racist.

spin machine.
Johnny was dropping N bombs all day
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spin machine.
Johnny was dropping N bombs all day

I would ask in what context but it would just start a lot of trolling.
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CptAUmerica21 said...
Exactly, Cam was crucified for his past. This kid got in jail too and no one says a damn word.
System QB's and all.

Cam stole someone's laptop and chunked it out a window.... Manziel got in a fight. I think Cam's offense was a little more serious and that's why you hear about it a little more.
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CptAUmerica21 said...
spin machine.
Johnny was dropping N bombs all day

and? last time i checked stealing a laptop is a crime, but using slurs is not.

This post was edited by rollingtide2004 on 12/7/2012 at 11:09 PM
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bamafan2010 said...
Cam stole someone's laptop and chunked it out a window.... Manziel got in a fight. I think Cam's offense was a little more serious and that's why you hear about it a little more.

Wrong. Damage to the person is and has always been a more serious criminal offense than damage to property. Always. Without exception. But continue to think that way. For example, if someone steals your property, you cannot kill them to get it back. Conversely, if someone points a gun at you and you reasonably believe your life is in danger, you can kill that person in self-defense.
If you can somehow fill me in on your logic of how receipt of stolen property and tampering with said property evidence is more egregious than physically assaulting someone preceded by the use of racially charged language to incite the aforementioned physical assault, I would love to hear it.
F-ing tBB armchair attorneys....

This post was edited by AUHeismanTrust on 12/7/2012 at 11:37 PM
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Did he make the comment before his arrest or did his friend?
I have not gotten a clear answer and neither have the Heisman voters.

He was under the influence, and was protecting his friend, who was using derogatory words towards an older black man. The man was coming after Johnny's friend, and he stepped in. He was arrested for PI I believe, but he lied to police officers and had multiple fake ID's on him.
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AUHeismanTrust said...
Wrong. Damage to the person is and has always been a more serious criminal offense than damage to property. Always. Without exception. But continue to think that way. If you can somehow fill me in on your logic of how receipt of stolen property and tampering with said property evidence is more egregious than physically assaulting someone (even in self-defense, which I doubt was the case) preceded by the use of racially charged language to incite the aforementioned physical assault, I would love to hear it.
F-ing tBB armchair attorneys....

People get in fights all the time, it just so happens in this case he was arrested. People don't steal laptops and throw them out windows very often, which IMO is why it was a bigger deal.
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bamafan2010 said...
People get in fights all the time, it just so happens in this case he was arrested. People don't steal laptops and throw them out windows very often, which IMO is why it was a bigger deal.

I'd much rather be friends with someone that got into a fight than someone who is a dirt bag, thief.
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Can anyone explain to me why ND is pointing fingers after the sex scandal that occurred, and the dead camera man. Don't mind throwing rocks from a glass house, ha?
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A players character has nothing to do with winning the heisman. If it did Scam Newton wouldn't have been invited to New York. It should annually go to the most outstanding player in the SEC anyway. In the SEC #5 for Notre Dame would be just another face in the crowd among a lot of great defensive players. Johnny Football should win the award hands down.
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Not picking sides because I honestly couldn't care less, but on my way home from the bar tonight i'll probably walk past 4 fights and zero laptops being destroyed...take it for what you will.
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bamafan2010 said...
Cam stole someone's laptop and chunked it out a window.... Manziel got in a fight. I think Cam's offense was a little more serious and that's why you hear about it a little more.

You forgot Cammy's academic fraud.
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People get in fights all the time, it just so happens in this case he was arrested. People don't steal laptops and throw them out windows very often, which IMO is why it was a bigger deal.

Logic.....so....absurd....must....not....sink....to......his.......level
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tea baggers get two years
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Logic.....so....absurd....must....not....sink....to......his.......level

Cam Newton was a thief, period. Are you denying he stole a laptop?
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SCirish843 said...
Not picking sides because I honestly couldn't care less, but on my way home from the bar tonight i'll probably walk past 4 fights and zero laptops being destroyed...take it for what you will.

lol
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rollingtide2004 said...
and? last time i checked [receipt of stolen property and tampering with evidence] is a crime, but using slurs is not.

FIFY.
Wrong. Check again. See Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969).

Brandenburg v. Ohio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio
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