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Can we come up with a comparable list of government programs

  • That have had success??

    THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE was established in 1775 – they’ve had 234 years to get it right; it is broke, and even though heavily subsidized, it can’t compete with private sector FedEx and UPS services.

    SOCIAL SECURITY was established in 1935 – they’ve had 74 years to get it right; it is broke.

    FANNIE MAE was established in 1938 – they’ve had 71 years to get it right; it is broke.

    FREDDIE MAC was established in 1970 – they’ve had 39 years to get it right; it is broke. Together Fannie and Freddie have now led the entire world into the worst economic collapse in 80 years.

    THE WAR ON POVERTY was started in 1964 – they’ve had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our hard earned money is confiscated each year and transferred to “the poor”; it hasn’t worked.

    MEDICARE and MEDICAID were established in 1965 – they’ve had 44 years to get it right; they are both broke; and now our government dares to mention them as models for all US health care.

    AMTRAK was established in 1970 – they’ve had 39 years to get it right; last year they bailed it out as it continues to run at a loss!

    WAR ON DRUGS started over four decades ago. Failed.

    This year, a trillion dollars was committed in the massive political payoff called the Stimulus Bill of 2009; it shows NO sign of working; it’s been used to increase the size of governments across America, and raise government salaries while the rest of us suffer from economic hardships.

    CASH FOR CLUNKERS was established in 2009 and went broke in 2009 – after 80% of the cars purchased turned out to be produced by foreign companies and dealers nationwide are buried under bureaucratic paperwork demanded by a government that is not yet paying them what was promised.

    NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND: $54.4 billion per year. America ranks 17th in education compared to other modern countries.

    DEPT. OF ENERGY: $26.4 billion budget. Gas prices at all time high!

    FAIR HOUSING ACT: The Feds forced the Banks to issue Subprime Mortgages to minorities with bad credit. Major cause of current recession. 841,073 foreclosures in 2012.

    FEDERAL RESERVE BANK: Broke! There is no “reserve” just printed paper money with no backing.

    This post was edited by DrStache on 3/5/2013 at 1:59 PM

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  • This will bring the LULZ!

    This post was edited by BamaLivesFootba on 3/5/2013 at 2:00 PM

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    This will bring the LULZ!

    I'm just looking for a comparable list of things the gubment has done instead of all this negativity. I'm feeling patriotic and Pro-Merica today.

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  • The government-funded University of Alabama. While it's football sector is thriving, it really needs to cut a lot of dead weight... namely the whole book learnin' thing.

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    That have had success??

    THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE was established in 1775 – they’ve had 234 years to get it right; it is broke, and even though heavily subsidized, it can’t compete with private sector FedEx and UPS services.

    SOCIAL SECURITY was established in 1935 – they’ve had 74 years to get it right; it is broke.

    FANNIE MAE was established in 1938 – they’ve had 71 years to get it right; it is broke.

    FREDDIE MAC was established in 1970 – they’ve had 39 years to get it right; it is broke. Together Fannie and Freddie have now led the entire world into the worst economic collapse in 80 years.

    THE WAR ON POVERTY was started in 1964 – they’ve had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our hard earned money is confiscated each year and transferred to “the poor”; it hasn’t worked.

    MEDICARE and MEDICAID were established in 1965 – they’ve had 44 years to get it right; they are both broke; and now our government dares to mention them as models for all US health care.

    AMTRAK was established in 1970 – they’ve had 39 years to get it right; last year they bailed it out as it continues to run at a loss!

    WAR ON DRUGS started over four decades ago. Failed.

    This year, a trillion dollars was committed in the massive political payoff called the Stimulus Bill of 2009; it shows NO sign of working; it’s been used to increase the size of governments across America, and raise government salaries while the rest of us suffer from economic hardships.

    CASH FOR CLUNKERS was established in 2009 and went broke in 2009 – after 80% of the cars purchased turned out to be produced by foreign companies and dealers nationwide are buried under bureaucratic paperwork demanded by a government that is not yet paying them what was promised.

    NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND: $54.4 billion per year. America ranks 17th in education compared to other modern countries.

    DEPT. OF ENERGY: $26.4 billion budget. Gas prices at all time high!

    FAIR HOUSING ACT: The Feds forced the Banks to issue Subprime Mortgages to minorities with bad credit. Major cause of current recession. 841,073 foreclosures in 2012.

    FEDERAL RESERVE BANK: Broke! There is no “reserve” just printed paper money with no backing.

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  • Everything the gubment touches turns to sh*t. But believe it or not there are libtards that advocate giving them more money and power. It's a disease.

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  • Wait I've got one.

    Welfare has had sucess in bringing 22" rims and flat screen tvs to the people who truly need assistance.

    Food stamps have allowed the 300lb lady at the checkout line to not go hungry with frozen pizzas and corn dogs.

    Mission accomplished!!

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  • George W Bush- First POTUS to fund stem cell research. Allowed testing of Stem Lines that were already destroyed but kept the moral compass by not allowing new embryo lines destroyed. Months later, with government funding , scientists found a suitable alternative to extracting Stem Cells by using skin cells. Like a boss.

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  • According to the Blue Board, here's the breakdown of government spending:

    Welfare fraud: 84%
    Obama phones: 6%
    Michelle Obama's bangs: 2%
    Miscellaneous waste: 8%

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  • Tidepride30 said...

    That have had success??

    Social Security has a $2.6 trillion surplus. That is far from broke. Social Security can be fixed before that surplus dwindles.

    Lots of flaws with some of your other examples also.

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    According to the Blue Board, here's the breakdown of government spending:

    Welfare fraud: 84% Obama phones: 6% Michelle Obama's bangs: 2% Miscellaneous waste: 8%

    Foreign aid is 30% too.
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  • rms02d said...

    Social Security has a $2.6 trillion surplus. That is far from broke. Social Security can be fixed before that surplus dwindles.

    Lots of flaws with some of your other examples also.

    I want to rip the OP, but id rather see his troll come to fruition.

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  • rms02d said...

    Social Security has a $2.6 trillion surplus. That is far from broke. Social Security can be fixed before that surplus dwindles.

    Lots of flaws with some of your other examples also.

    And it used to be bigger. In 2010, SS benefits paid out were more than being brought in for the first time ever and that trend continues. The SS trustees predict the surplus will be gone by 2033. Many predict sooner but all predict it to be well gone by then.

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  • Welfare has also created an entire class of people permanently dependent on the government. Also a dependable voting block for the democrats. Very successful scam for them.

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  • Tidepride30 said...

    And it used to be bigger. In 2010, SS benefits paid out were more than being brought in for the first time ever and that trend continues. The SS trustees predict the surplus will be gone by 2033. Many predict sooner but all predict it to be well gone by then.

    Lol. An easy fix due to generational changes. Not an inherent flaw.

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  • THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE was established in 1775 – they’ve had 234 years to get it right; it is broke, and even though heavily subsidized, it can’t compete with private sector FedEx and UPS services.

    The US Postal Service has been a huge success for the past 234 years, and was largely self funded without tax payer support. You can send a letter anywhere in the United States for 37 cents. That's pretty damn good. The only reason it is on the down turn now is because of a huge paradigm shift in the way people communicate coupled with the bad economy that greatly lowered mail volume. I think they will be just fine by the savings they will see dropping Saturday deliveries.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Lol. An easy fix due to generational changes. Not an inherent flaw.

    What's the easy fix Benjamin Graham?

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  • OmegaBuckeye said...

    THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE was established in 1775 – they’ve had 234 years to get it right; it is broke, and even though heavily subsidized, it can’t compete with private sector FedEx and UPS services.

    The US Postal Service has been a huge success for the past 234 years, and was largely self funded without tax payer support. You can send a letter anywhere in the United States for 37 cents. That's pretty damn good. The only reason it is on the down turn now is because of a huge paradigm shift in the way people communicate coupled with the bad economy that greatly lowered mail volume. I think they will be just fine by the savings they will see dropping Saturday deliveries.

    The only reason USPS is broke is because of a stupid law that makes them prefund all retirement benefits for its employees.

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  • Tidepride30 said...

    What's the easy fix Benjamin Graham?

    Age extension, means testing, raise in FICA.

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  • I think every American fully understands if our government was even decent we'd all be driving ferarri's and somehow banging 10s all the time. The question is, how do fix it?

    We might need some V for Vendetta ish

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  • The whole "They've had X years to get it right" rhetoric is a gross mischaracterization.

    Many of these programs worked incredibly well for a long time:

    For decades, the US Postal Service was the most efficient way to send mail. Successive budget cuts and a complete misunderstanding of the fundamental purpose of the post office (it's not a business! It's not necessarily meant to turn a profit, it's a governmental program for the benefit of all citizens, much like roads and infrastructure!) have resulted in a wave of ill will towards it.

    Medicaid/Medicare//Social Security worked fantastically when life expectancies were around 75 and retirement age was 65. A lack of adaptation to improved medical technologies is the main problem with such programs in their modern incarnations. To say they never got it right is foolish.

    The war on poverty effectively ended in 1996 with the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. Nobody's fighting the war anymore, and I think it's pretty obvious from the general contempt on tBB for poor people that there isn't exactly a lot of political sympathy for the poor in many segments of the population. The US approach to the war on poverty over the last 40 years is roughly equivalent to declaring war on North Korea, landing multiple battalions on North Korean soil, and then pulling 90% of the troops out before they complete a single mission objective. To continue the metaphor, it's like leaving 100 chaplains and medics in Pyongyang and, 2 weeks later, complaining that they haven't taken over the entire country.

    The Dept. of Energy doesn't set gas prices.

    I can't even begin to go into how ridiculous that characterization of the Fair Housing Act is.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Age extension, means testing, raise in FICA.

    Do you plan on living to 114 years old? It's already 68-70 years old. Raise in FICA? So even more Americans stretched to the limit will enure more tax hikes?

    Means testing? That's one way I can agree on.

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    Welfare has also created an entire class of people permanently dependent on the government. Also a dependable voting block for the democrats. Very successful scam for them.

    lol at the "entitlement society" myth.

    How dare we provide aid to those elderly and disabled people?! They should be left to starve in the streets!

    Contrary to

    Non-partisan research and policy institute working on federal and state fiscal policies and public programs that affect low- and moderate-income Americans

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  • They worked well until the liberals starting forcing their awful progressive policies onto them. No surprise they went downhill.

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  • Tidepride30 said...

    Do you plan on living to 114 years old? It's already 68-70 years old. Raise in FICA? So even more Americans stretched to the limit will enure more tax hikes?

    Means testing? That's one way I can agree on.

    An year or two extension could extend the surplus past the baby boom generational shift. That's all that matters. Also a basis point of a change in FICA would add a year or two as well.

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