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In reality, there are very few restraints on LEO use of force.

He meant Ben Rothlesberger.

What I find most damning about that incident are all the bullet holes in the BACK of the vehicle. They've been spinning this as if they were afraid for their lives.

Don't know about y'all but, I'm really scared when a truck is driving AWAY from me? Terrified even. Better shoot it to hell!

LAPD's actions sure do fit the corruption profile asserted by Dorner.

Yeah - I'm currently attending a death penalty litigation seminar series on weekends, and we mentioned the Kelly Thomas case. It's just astonishing how few LEO-caused-homicides result in any charges at all, much less capital charges. Cops simply live by a different set of rules than the rest of us.

As for that strict code of conduct, if I were an LA cop, that's what would terrify me. This guy has professional military training. He's had one of the highest LAPD security clearances for years. He literally knows all their secrets, and he's hunting cops. He knows where to hit them where it hurts, he knows how to do it, and he's better at it than 99% of the LAPD. He's had 5 years to plan this too.

They found his burned-out car up in Big Bear, and are focusing the search on the numerous empty cabins up in the mountains. Please. I would be willing to bet a large amount of money that he had another car stashed nearby and he's somewhere in the desert, relaxing and watching the cops waste resources while he bides his time. He's disciplined, capable, and has nothing to lose - pretty much the worst nightmare of every LAPD cop.

THIS is what I was speaking to when I was trying to give some 'other side of the coin' perspective on gun control. It's not about Red Dawn scenarios or paranoia bunkers in Alabama. In some communities the only thing that is keeping the police from kicking down your door and spraying the room with hollow points is the very real threat of the person inside also being armed. In many communities, multiple in LA county, the populace has every rational reason not to just distrust, but to fear law enforcement.

I think he was gone by the time they spotted his burning car. He could be in Costa Rica by now.

Police involved in a shootout right now in Big Bear California supposedly this Dorner guy is involved

I hope they dust the POS soon. Unload every round they have on him.

Can't show more tape? Does that mean they got him?

Probably something like that.

Well, I guess not. Looks like he's just another coward who will be dead soon. Hopefully with an excessive amount of rounds to his dome.

Who is this guy? He's living a movie.

I think CNN speculated that they turned away the helicopters so he can't watch live on TV if he has it.