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Coaches that should have been fired by now......

  • Dr.Stache said...

    They've been waiting on the right coach for 100 years because they've never been on the level of the all time great programs. Theyve had good stretch runs but I've never been sold I the sleeping giant argument. If they were, it would have happened by now.

    I would agree with this normally, but the talent level in Georgia has exploded in the last 10 years. They were always pretty good talent wise as a state, but recently they have been churning out top D1 players like crazy...and most dont go to UGA.

    del taki

  • whoever downvoted me you're ugly and nobody loved you when you was little.

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  • dan mullen. i think he's overrated. i think miss st should push him out while they're ahead and go after petrino

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  • Mack Brown. Texas was pathetically run for decades and decades, he shows up and starts running the program "real well" and they fall in love with him. There's 5+ coaches who would unequivocally do better there and they could likely land 4 of them with Saban not available.

    When I post these things its a massive compliment to Texas.

    It will be obvious when they play a team like USC in a bowl again and Lane Kiffin makes him look like a high school coach.

    fsufsu

  • Pichelmayer said...

    dan mullen. i think he's overrated. i think miss st should push him out while they're ahead and go after petrino

    hell no. you're outta your Damn mind. we don't want to get rid of Dan and don't want bobby. he is a pos

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  • Dr.Stache said...

    I'm a member of 2 of the largest Bama boards in te market and I haven't seen one. I think you're full of shit.

    Absolutely. But you were pissed there for a second

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  • you could make a case that Pellini has finished below expectations for about 3 straight seasons now. But I also think that's one of the toughest jobs in America. The mandate for Nebraska to be consistently top 10, but without the name brand that Nebraska used to have, it's much tougher for them to recruit - and they no longer have the weight room advantage they used to have over everyone. It's going to be difficult for Any Nebraska coach to be elite there. You won't ever see Urban Meyer retire from Ohio State to coach Nebraska.

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  • Gregg Schiano would have been on top of my list, but he bailed. You could also make an argument for Danny Hope. That's the school that invented basketball on grass, yet they are soooo boring on offense these days.

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  • I will also defend Mark Richt and Mack Brown. Mack Brown won a national title, and appeared in the title game as recently as 3 years ago. He's a standout recruiter, and he can motivate his kids. He's run into the same problem that happens to every program - his highly rated QBs have struggled badly. If he had Colt McCoy, they probably make a push for the Big 12 title last year. If one his QBs step up this season, they'll be right there.

    With Richt, well he's in the SEC and he has Alabama and LSU in the same conference. What do you want from him? Regardless of the coach, Georgia won't pass either program. LSU has just too much natural talent in their backyard, Alabama has too much going on with Saban.

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  • Tedford tops the list for sure. How long will they recruit good/very good classes and continue to suck before they get rid of him. After Aaron Rogers he's done nothing. They've had big time RB's and DL's which is a recipe for success and he still hasn't done anything.

    Richt is right there. It's no secret that Georgia as a state is producing more and better talent year after year. UGA has a loaded roster more often than not. He does just enough to where you can't really warrant firing him. It seems like everytime UGA has expectations coming off of a decent year, they underachieve. He's a perfect example of a solid coach that just doesn't have that will and want to, to take the next step. That said, if you look at UGA historically, they really shouldn't expect much more than what they're doing. Even Dooley wasn't that great sans the years he had a RB named Herschel Walker.

    If Mack Brown doesn't turn it around and compete for the Big 12 this year, he needs to step down. Every program will have a down year or two, but it's generally chalked up to coaching change/turnover/asst coaches moving on. Three down years in a row at a place like Texas would be inexcusable having been there that long. Either way, there are a bunch of coaches out there that could do it bigger and better at Texas. They should be great every year.

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  • BetterOff said...

    Established guys. Not someone like Dooley at Tennessee that really has this year and maybe one more to show improvement.

    I would go with Jeff Tedford at Cal.

    In 2002-2006, they were 43-20 with 2 10-win seasons. Since then, they are 36-28 and a 9-4, 4th place finish in the PAC 10 in 2008 has been the best year. The kicker is that they have recruited pretty well during that time also and have put some top player into the NFL.

    He has lost 8 straight to SC. 1-5 vs Oregon St since 2007. Lost 3 straight to Oregon and Washington. Started 5-0 vs Stanford, but has since gone 2-3 and has been completely left behind by his main rival.

    The other name that I thought about was Mark Richt, but he got things flipped back just in time I feel. He does need to continue that trend as I doubt that the administration is going to allow another rehash of 2008-2010 to happen again.

    UGA has lost 9 straight to teams that finished the season ranked, and is 2-15 vs teams that finished ranked since the start of the 2008 season.

    He is 3-8 against a main rival in Florida, which is usually a pretty damning statistic for any coach, but when you look at the other rival games, he was faired very well.

    7-4 vs Tennessee 7-4 vs Auburn 10-1 vs Ga Tech 7-4 vs South Carolina (this game has become very important to both teams lately).

    Another name to think about is Dabo. Last season was a great one at Clemson, but I think the bowl game and some late season losses left a bit of a bad taste. With the collapses that Clemson became used to under Bowden, I doubt they are going to be very patient is Dabo has a setback or two.

    Hit it on the head with Tedford. Cal fans looking at the NFL must be sick to their stomach, they were absolutely loaded for about a decade. Still are, they just suck.

    Alonzo Harris

  • deltadawg82 said...

    hell no. you're outta your Damn mind. we don't want to get rid of Dan and don't want bobby. he is a pos

    so do msu fans think mullen is the savior of msu football? im not trying to be smart or anything i just really dont understand

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  • appoo said...

    With Richt, well he's in the SEC and he has Alabama and LSU in the same conference. What do you want from him? Regardless of the coach, Georgia won't pass either program. LSU has just too much natural talent in their backyard, Alabama has too much going on with Saban.

    Being completely transparent, there is more talent in Georgia than Louisiana and Alabama combined.

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  • del taki said...

    I would agree with this normally, but the talent level in Georgia has exploded in the last 10 years. They were always pretty good talent wise as a state, but recently they have been churning out top D1 players like crazy...and most dont go to UGA.

    State lines in south are nearly irrelevant, Especially in Georgia/FL/AL.

    Everyone recruits Atlanta.

    Saban can pull kids from Southeast Asia if he wants.

    FSU is all over S Georgia.

    Bama nabs more elite players in the FL panhandle than FSU, while FSU raids Mobile/Prattville.

    Auburn does well in Columbus.

    UGA does well, but expecting any school not named LSU in the south to lock down their state is unrealistic, IMO.

    Clemson pays kids from all 3 states.

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  • BetterOff said...

    Another name to think about is Dabo. Last season was a great one at Clemson, but I think the bowl game and some late season losses left a bit of a bad taste. With the collapses that Clemson became used to under Bowden, I doubt they are going to be very patient is Dabo has a setback or two.

    Dabo is overdo I think. If they lose to South Carolina again things will get real interesting for him.

    Of course I hope he stays forever. He constantly embarrasses that school and under develops talent. I hope they keep winning just enough to keep him.

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  • WillyDees said...

    State lines in south are nearly irrelevant, Especially in Georgia/FL/AL.

    Everyone recruits Atlanta.

    Saban can pull kids from Southeast Asia if he wants.

    FSU is all over S Georgia.

    Bama nabs more elite players in the FL panhandle than FSU, while FSU raids Mobile/Prattville.

    Auburn does well in Columbus.

    UGA does well, but expecting any school not named LSU in the south to lock down their state is unrealistic, IMO.

    Clemson pays kids from all 3 states.

    Agreed. I will never understand why people expect us to lock down 70+ elite/very good HS football players every year. Pretty sure that cannot be done.

    Del Taco, of course most players leave the state, we only have 1 FBS-level program in the state GA and UGA can only take ~25 per year, so yes more than 25 will leave the state. Thanks Cap'n Obvious.

    Richt's biggest problem was Willie Martinez. Promoting him to DC is the single worst move CMR has ever made as a coach. CWM is a great guy, solid DB coach, horrid DC. Grantham is light years ahead of him.

    Nicolae

  • i would say zook but he got the boot somebody should be able to do something good with illinois

    TravisFLAx8

  • Hot Sauce said...

    Wait, what? Frank Beamer is VT football. You must not understand their past history. He built that program and will be the face of it forever. He is a legend there and could have 10 straight losing seasons and keep his job.

    So was Bowden and no one man is bigger than the program itself

    Beamer was great, a legend..... But change can be good and VT needs a change imo

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  • WillyDees said...

    State lines in south are nearly irrelevant, Especially in Georgia/FL/AL.

    Everyone recruits Atlanta.

    Saban can pull kids from Southeast Asia if he wants.

    FSU is all over S Georgia.

    Bama nabs more elite players in the FL panhandle than FSU, while FSU raids Mobile/Prattville.

    Auburn does well in Columbus.

    UGA does well, but expecting any school not named LSU in the south to lock down their state is unrealistic, IMO.

    Clemson pays kids from all 3 states.

    My man dees droppin knowledge on dees bitches

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  • John L Smith. I like Arky and feel bad for what's to come.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    So was Bowden and no one man is bigger than the program itself

    Beamer was great, a legend..... But change can be good and VT needs a change imo

    I think Beamer needs to stay because VT is tapped out. This is their peak IMO, and they aren't sitting on a gold mine recruiting base like FSU is, so I can't see a new coach doing as well or improving.

    Alonzo Harris

  • Alonzo Harris said...

    I think Beamer needs to stay because VT is tapped out. This is their peak IMO, and they aren't sitting on a gold mine recruiting base like FSU is, so I can't see a new coach doing as well or improving.

    Good point and i totally agree, just saying Beamer is likely maxed out so maybe a change would work

    But yeah VT will never be a major power, mainly cause of location

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  • you don't change a legendary coach without things going bad

    replace him with bud foster and who knows what happens

    Hot Sauce

  • Hot Sauce said...

    you don't change a legendary coach without things going bad

    replace him with bud foster and who knows what happens

    Things weren't really going bad at FSU in the eyes of some

    Never even had a losing record

    Really depends on your definition of the word

    VT is stuck in park iyam and change is needed, Beamer is 1-29 against the top 5 and only has 2 wins ( both at home ) against the top 10

    He is what ? 60/70 years old ? Beating 10 nobody dickheads every year isn't my definition of good so...

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 4/27/2012 at 1:48 PM

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Good point and i totally agree, just saying Beamer is likely maxed out so maybe a change would work

    But yeah VT will never be a major power, mainly cause of location

    There are some good players in VA, but I can't see them being able to hire a coach that is good enough to keep them home. Those kids will always leave the state IMO. Just too many powerhouse programs already on the eastern seaboard.

    If I were them I'd just be happy with where I'm at rather than roll the dice and turn into NC State or something.

    Alonzo Harris