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Coaches that should have been fired by now......

  • Alonzo Harris said...

    There are some good players in VA, but I can't see them being able to hire a coach that is good enough to keep them home. Those kids will always leave the state IMO. Just too many powerhouse programs already on the eastern seaboard.

    If I were them I'd just be happy with where I'm at rather than roll the dice and turn into NC State or something.

    Yup and like i mentioned they can't keep most cause blacksburg totally blows if you are an urbanized young black male

    Actually it sucks if you anything other than a white middle aged cow farmer

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Things weren't really going bad at FSU in the eyes of some

    Never even had a losing record

    Really depends on your definition of the word

    VT is stuck in park iyam and change is needed, Beamer is 1-29 against the top 5 and only has 2 wins ( both at home ) against the top 10

    He is what ? 60/70 years old ? Beating 10 nobody dickheads every year isn't my definition of good so...

    They can either win 10 games every year, graduate players, produce multiple NFL players, be respected, or turn into a whole pile of nothing which is what they were before.

    Hot Sauce

  • Nicolae said...

    Agreed. I will never understand why people expect us to lock down 70+ elite/very good HS football players every year. Pretty sure that cannot be done.

    Del Taco, of course most players leave the state, we only have 1 FBS-level program in the state GA and UGA can only take ~25 per year, so yes more than 25 will leave the state. Thanks Cap'n Obvious.

    Richt's biggest problem was Willie Martinez. Promoting him to DC is the single worst move CMR has ever made as a coach. CWM is a great guy, solid DB coach, horrid DC. Grantham is light years ahead of him.

    What do you think about Vangorder and Martinez back together? What would you think about where our defense could rank next year with them?

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  • Hot Sauce said...

    They can either win 10 games every year, graduate players, produce multiple NFL players, be respected, or turn into a whole pile of nothing which is what they were before.

    Maybe, you don't know what would happen

    And acting like they will just keep rolling off 10 wins just cause of Beamer is beyond dumb

    Bowden rolled off 14 straight, then his age took that down to his last 8 years having only one 10 win season

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  • kitemac said...

    What do you think about Vangorder and Martinez back together? What would you think about where our defense could rank next year with them?

    Vangorder was a good enough coach, but I've heard his recruiting wasn't that great. And Martinez isn't welcomed back at his last 2 schools.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Maybe, you don't know what would happen

    And acting like they will just keep rolling off 10 wins just cause of Beamer is beyond dumb

    Bowden rolled off 14 straight, then his age took that down to his last 8 years having only one 10 win season

    IMO VT would escalate itself to a program that will consistently compete against FSU every year to get to the BCS game for the ACC and have the "possibility" to play for a natty every once in a while (not every year; for the people who want to analyze that comment to death), if they brought in a new energetic blood into their system. Beamer isn't going to be the one who does it. VT is accustomed to winning so thinking they are going to go back to NC state status is stupid. They will continue winning (just purely based on the lack of recruiting they do now and the conference they are in). They should easily be able to recruit better. VT has a strong alumni in DC/Baltimore/V Beach/Charlotte/East Tenn and should be able to recruit these areas much better.

    To say that you just can't keep players in your state is dumb (goes for Georgia and Virginia). Recruiting is recruiting and you may have players who just want to get our but if you have killer recruiters on your staff you should be able to get your share of top talent in your state and area. If VT got new blood who could really recruit (cause they don't have any good recruiters) they would lock down there radius area (which isn't a huge talent pool) and then get their fare share of DC, Charlotte, Raleigh, and Virginia Beach kids. This would go along way to increasing their talent. Also new blood would create an instant spark in the current players attitude and they would play with some ferocity.

    Also, I worked in Blacksburg for 3 months its actually a pretty cool town, just like any other college town (Auburn, Athens, & Clemson). So to say that no body would want to go there is outrageous. They need recruiters that can sell is there only problem.

    Beamer is outdated and doesn't know that todays college football isn't played on the field its played in the homes of high school students.

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  • NoVaNoles said...

    Maybe, you don't know what would happen

    And acting like they will just keep rolling off 10 wins just cause of Beamer is beyond dumb

    Bowden rolled off 14 straight, then his age took that down to his last 8 years having only one 10 win season

    And Georgia should be able to lock down the top talent in their state. UGA is a national heritage team and has a huge fan base and influence in the state. I realize the state of georgia gets a ton of high school talent (more than a big majority of the states) and it has only itself to compete against for instate prowess so it can't keep all of the talent but UGA is losing 75% of the top talent to out of state schools and that is ridiculous. It should be the opposite. As soon as they get a coach who realizes this that program WILL be the power of the east.

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  • rrt1187 said...

    And Georgia should be able to lock down the top talent in their state. UGA is a national heritage team and has a huge fan base and influence in the state. I realize the state of georgia gets a ton of high school talent (more than a big majority of the states) and it has only itself to compete against for instate prowess so it can't keep all of the talent but UGA is losing 75% of the top talent to out of state schools and that is ridiculous. It should be the opposite. As soon as they get a coach who realizes this that program WILL be the power of the east.

    Not sure where you get 75% from

    UGA still lands a healthy amount of talent from GA, its hard to get everybody and when you miss on one #1 player here and then a top RB there people will assume the sky is falling

    Im not sure what the problem at UGA is, but judging from the players I see on their team each year it sure as hell isn't talent

    As for VT I sorta agree, I think they need new blood and a brand new offensive staff..... still don't think they will ever be a serious national title contender

    Most people don't realize it but VT doesn't recruit well in the trenches, they do okay on the defensive side but always lack size and almost always have zero depth, this year they are bragging about how sweet the depth at DT is and they only rotate 4 guys maybe..... and I bet most of the nation couldn't name one of them

    The OL they have this year is gonna be awful, Saban would struggle to win 10 games with it and the OL is always their downfall against the elite..... its a huge reason why they only have 2 wins against the top 10 all time

    This post was edited by NoVaNoles on 4/27/2012 at 6:34 PM

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