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Collin Klein

  • TAMUWolverine said...

    Check again, you're wrong.

    you used miller's 2011 stats bud.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/512838/braxton-miller

    This post was edited by Allhailuga on 11/20/2012 at 4:34 AM

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  • Allhailuga said...

    Miller's got 1850 passing 14 tds and 1215 rushing 13 td's.

    He deserves to be in NY.

    Um, link? I got stats directly off of ESPN...

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  • Nvm-you are correct, I was glancing back and forth and made a mistake. If we're talking about a Heisman winner, though, Manziel>Miller.

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  • sure, but miller is a top 4 candidate.

    manziel's leading going into the backstretch. its not locked up though.

    Allhailuga

  • i think ball will probably also be in new york - with the whole good season+career achievement award.

    Allhailuga

  • the 4th spot is up in the air - klein is probably leading for it right now, but could be overtaken by 3-4 others. i think tao is in the discussion just to be cute about having a defensive player. kinda like the honey badger last year. i already noted murray could slip in there if he replicates mettenberger vs bama and wins. its a marquee game that everyone will be watching (doubt he does it, but he could).

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  • Allhailuga said...

    the 4th spot is up in the air - klein is probably leading for it right now, but could be overtaken by 3-4 others. i think tao is in the discussion just to be cute about having a defensive player. kinda like the honey badger last year. i already noted murray could slip in there if he replicates mettenberger vs bama and wins. its a marquee game that everyone will be watching (doubt he does it, but he could).

    I updated my post comparing their stats if you want to look at it, just based off of those numbers without even factoring in level of competition, Manziel SHOULD win easily. I say SHOULD win because I doubt some of the voters want to vote for a freshman.

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  • TAMUWolverine said...

    I updated my post comparing their stats if you want to look at it, just based off of those numbers without even factoring in level of competition, Manziel SHOULD win easily. I say SHOULD win because I doubt some of the voters want toi a vote for a freshman.

    i agree. probably the only other factor is the 2 loss deal. someone from one of the 2 teams in the national championship could possibly jump him. one of those deals, where they not only compare the stats (which manziel obviously wins) but also compare the players impact on a championship winning team.

    they don't always do that (see tebow's 4 loss heisman year), but often they do.

    Allhailuga

  • compared to griffin, no one is even close still...

    4293 passing, 37 tds, 699 rushing, 10 tds

    Allhailuga