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Conference Realignment Prediction Thread

  • You can respond in two parts. One is what you think happens over the next few weeks and the summer? Second is predicting where we will be in 5-6 years when it's "done".

    I think starting in 2016 we'll have this set up:

    BYU = Big 12
    Clemson = Big 12
    FSU = Big 12
    Miami = Big 12
    NCSt = Big 12
    Notre Dame = Big 12

    Virginia Tech = SEC
    UNC = SEC

    Georgia Tech = B1G
    Virginia = B1G

    Boise St = Pac12, just football
    UNV = Pac 12, just football
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    I think Pac14 may form and be the only conference of the SCs that is not 16 teams deep.

    Something like the top 8 teams with the only AQs being the 4 SC winners.Final four are most often 2-3 more SC teams and 1-2 non SCs. If they dont make a way for non SC teams to get in they'll sued and will lose that battle in court.

    That Big 12 looks strong.

    This post was edited by fsufsu on 11/30/2012 at 6:01 PM

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  • Not how good they are in 2012 or even over the last 4-6 years but how strong and capable of a contending season each program would be.......what would the strongest DIVISION in college football?

    The SECE and the BIG12E would be a war.

    Big 12E:
    Notre Dame
    Miami
    Florida State
    Clemson
    WVU
    NCSt
    Kansas St
    Kansas

    SECE:
    Florida
    Georgia
    North Carolina -- given far more money and better conference affiliation I think UNC could be #3 in this division
    Tennessee
    South Carolina
    Virginia Tech -- their great local talent ground will be too hotly contested for them to flourish (PSU/MD/UNC/etc recruit DMV)
    Kentucky
    Vanderbilt

    Wow

    fsufsu

  • Big 12 will go to 14 and stop. The only conference I see Notre Dame joining would be the Big 12, and I mean that for football. I think they will hold out for as long as they can, though. I don't blame them.

    FSU
    Clemson
    Miami
    One of the Carolina schools.

    Big 12 East will be...

    WVU
    FSU
    Clemson
    Miami
    Carolina school
    KSU
    UK

    Lets say ND decides they have held out long enough and wants to join. It would be ND and another Carolina school most likely. That is unless the Big 10 doesn't take GT. Then GT will be coming with the original wave.

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  • Not sure who PAC12 pulls because unless they leave the West.

    I see ND at 65% B1G/35% Big XII.

    Your first predictions all seem solid.

    I am more interested in the fallout with the rest of the NCAA members. If those 64 teams go and form their own organizations, they will be splitting tens of BILLIONS every year and the other 300 or so schools will be left high and dry. It should bring out some very sleezy negotiations and backroom deals,

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    BamaLivesFootba

  • Not just for the 62 teams in the SCs but for the whole of CFB they will need to appoint a commissioner and basically secede from the NCAA. Commissioner could be selected democratically and would do a lot to maintain order I believe. If left under the oversight of the NCAA it will reach epic proportions of fail and collusion.

    fsufsu

  • ND to SEC. Book it.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Not sure who PAC12 pulls because unless they leave the West.

    I see ND at 65% B1G/35% Big XII.

    Your first predictions all seem solid.

    I am more interested in the fallout with the rest of the NCAA members. If those 64 teams go and form their own organizations, they will be splitting tens of BILLIONS every year and the other 300 or so schools will be left high and dry. It should bring out some very sleezy negotiations and backroom deals,

    ND will not end up in the B10. They will hold out to the very last moment (forever, if possible). At the very end, if they are forced into a conference, it will be the P12. In fact, it would not surprise me to see UT, ND, OU and OSU all join the P12 together a decade or so from now as a Midwest pod.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 11/30/2012 at 6:35 PM

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  • Wait. What you are describing is essentially what the NCAA did, except the new organization would be smaller and there wouldn't be a greater deviation between the biggest, most profitable school and the smallest, least profitable school. The biggest difference the new organization could accomplish is giving the organization commissioner CLEAR, UNIFORM instructions on how to handle everything.

    It really seems like the NCAA members just said "here ya go" to the current organization and then when they ran a shit show for the last fifteen years, ignore it. It's ridiculous

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    This post was edited by BamaLivesFootba on 11/30/2012 at 6:41 PM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    ND will not end up in the B10. They will hold out to the very last moment (forever, if possible). At the very end, if they are forced into a conference, it will be the P12. In fact, it would not surprise me to see UT, ND, OU and OSU all join the P12 together a decade or so from now as a Midwest pod.

    That would be a hell of a conference.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    That would be a hell of a conference.

    Wouldn't ever happen because it would doom TCU, gaylor, and tech. Not that I wouldn't enjoy to see that happen but politics in this state would never allow it.

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  • Status said...

    Wouldn't ever happen because it would doom TCU, gaylor, and tech. Not that I wouldn't enjoy to see that happen but politics in this state would never allow it.

    Damn Tejanos.

    People want to pick y'all apart. If the PAC12 can get Texas though, that would mean that they would have a TV market size of almost 1/3 of the country. blank

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Damn Tejanos.

    People want to pick y'all apart. If the PAC12 can get Texas though, that would mean that they would have a TV market size of almost 1/3 of the country. blank

    Add BYU and ND and the Big12 footprint would look like the Louisiana purchase lol.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    Add BYU and ND and the Big12 footprint would look like the Louisiana purchase lol.

    Geographically-wise, ya lol.

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  • I really don't see Miami joining the Big 12, I think if given the choice Miami will likely go back to being independent then join a conference.

    However they could be forced to join a conference because of the new playoffs format.

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  • abs_da_don said...

    I really don't see Miami joining the Big 12, I think if given the choice Miami will likely go back to being independent then join a conference.

    However they could be forced to join a conference because of the new playoffs format.

    The latter is more likely than the former.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    The latter is more likely than the former.

    Yh I agree.

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    abs_da_don

  • Seriously though, I don't see why we aren't talking about Texas more, that state is about to usher in what Cali went through from the 60s to the 90s.

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  • Tallahassee radio show says ACC will be done for here soon. Says FSU will not be in the ACC much longer. Says that the other conferences have bettered themselves through expansion while the ACC did not, and that shows in the TV deal that Swofford signed.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Seriously though, I don't see why we aren't talking about Texas more, that state is about to usher in what Cali went through from the 60s to the 90s.

    What are you referring to?

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  • fsufsu said...

    What are you referring to?

    It's projected to pass California in terms of population and is growing in leaps and bounds economically. It already has five of the top 19 largest cities in the country.

    Adding the state as a TV market could do what some regions do.

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  • The Big Ten adding Virginia and Ga Tech makes sense academically and in their scheme to expand their market. Mediocre athletic additions, though.

    A2Wolverines

  • A^2Wolverines said...

    The Big Ten adding Virginia and Ga Tech makes sense academically and in their scheme to expand their market. Mediocre athletic additions, though.

    its exactly what they did adding rutgers and maryland except they added mediocre academics and mediocre athletics. with GT and UVA at least you get top notch academics

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  • abs_da_don said...

    I really don't see Miami joining the Big 12, I think if given the choice Miami will likely go back to being independent then join a conference.

    However they could be forced to join a conference because of the new playoffs format.

    i dont see how miami would survive financially

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  • Miami cant go independent. They'd drown. They'd get 14 mill tops for tv and tickets would always go undersold. Small alumni cant give the donations needed. I think Miami makes the Big 12. We'll want that market and we will want them as an addition academically. With the extra 15-20 mill a year in tv the B12 would give them I think the Canes become a top 5 program again pretty quickly.

    If the Big 12 adds FSU, Miami, Clemson, and Louisville it will actually end up being less travel distances for all of us than the ACC.

    This post was edited by fsufsu on 12/1/2012 at 4:09 PM

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