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Conference by conference wins over OOC bowl teams

  • counting bowl eligible to date. Will update as need as more OOC games are played

    SEC 52 OOC games total to date 10

    Road wins vs AQ: none

    Home/neutral site wins vs AQ: MIchigan (neutral site), Washington, NC State

    Road vs non-AQ: UCF, Louisiana Tech

    Home/neutral vs non-AQ: Tulsa, Bowling Green, Kent St, Western Kentucky, ULM, Middle Tennessee St, UCF
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    PAC-12 36 OOC games total to date 11

    Road wins vs AQ: None

    Home/neutral vs AQ: Nebraska, Wisconsin, Oklahoma St, Duke

    Road wins vs non-AQ BYU

    Home wins vs Non-AQ: BYU, Fresno St, San Diego St, San Jose St, Arkansas St, Toledo
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    Big-12 36 games total to date 2

    Road wins vs AQ none

    Home/neutral vs AQ none

    Road vs non-AQ ULM

    Home vs non-AQ Tulsa

    seriously and the Big-12 is considered the top conference by most of the computers?

    This post was edited by MJRuffalo on 11/12/2012 at 5:45 PM

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  • Maybe the computers think that these teams suck? Of what possible relevance is "bowl eligible to date?"

    Tulsa, Bowling Green, Kent St, Western Kentucky, ULM, Middle Tennessee St, UCF

    VaHorn

  • VaHorn said...

    Maybe the computers think that these teams suck? Of what possible relevance is "bowl eligible to date?"

    Tulsa, Bowling Green, Kent St, Western Kentucky, ULM, Middle Tennessee St, UCF

    part of the reason why I broke it down between AQ and non-AQ. I almost made the cutoff for non-AQ 7 wins. will probably update at seasons end and compare OOC wins over AQ teams with at least 6 wins, and non-AQ teams with at least 8 wins.

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    MJRuffalo

  • What has gotten into fans of Pac-12 teams? This is already the second thread like this today. How many is that this month already... 30?

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    sf2k4

  • sf2k4 said...

    What has gotten into fans of Pac-12 teams? This is already the second thread like this today. How many is that this month already... 30?

    Just lookin to interject some math based logic into the discussion. Do you hate math and logic or something?

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    MJRuffalo

  • MJRuffalo said...

    Just lookin to interject some math based logic into the discussion. Do you hate math and logic or something?

    You "interject" these types of posts nearly every day. Why don't you just come right out and say what it is you're attempting to subtly (poorly, I might add) imply?

    This post was edited by sf2k4 on 11/12/2012 at 6:24 PM

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  • Big XII gets help from having nine conference games, but the PAC12 does too, so I don't know? shrug

    Personally, I think the Big XII is behind the SEC and PAC12 in overall terms this year.

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  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    Big XII gets help from having nine conference games, but the PAC12 does too, so I don't know? shrug

    Personally, I think the Big XII is behind the SEC and PAC12 in overall terms this year.

    Actually both conferences are hurt by 9 conference games. The Big-12 isn't hurt as much as they don't play anyone OOC, the 2 best teams they have faced OOC, Notre Dame, and Arizona they lost to. PAC-12 plays 9 conference games, and an extremely tough OOC. In most of the computers minds it is better to beat 2 average to poor teams, than to go 1-1 vs some good to very good teams.

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  • I thought more conference games gives you a better standing as a conference? shrug

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Just lookin to interject some math based logic into the discussion. Do you hate math and logic or something?

    The only team in the Big12 with an OOC win against a team even getting a single vote in any poll is Iowa St. with a win against Tulsa who is getting a total of 8 votes between both the AP and Ccoaches poll.

    BetterOff

  • BamaLivesFootba said...

    I thought more conference games gives you a better standing as a conference? shrug

    not in the computers eyes. Because more conference games mean more losses (each conference game is .5000< while OOC win percentages are usually much higher than that) and many computers use opp win percentage as a major factor.

    Like how the sec has 6 teams in the top-10, but it is not like all 6 of those have played each other. Hell Georgia has only played 1 of the other 5.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    Actually both conferences are hurt by 9 conference games. The Big-12 isn't hurt as much as they don't play anyone OOC, the 2 best teams they have faced OOC, Notre Dame, and Arizona they lost to. PAC-12 plays 9 conference games, and an extremely tough OOC. In most of the computers minds it is better to beat 2 average to poor teams, than to go 1-1 vs some good to very good teams.

    Pretty sure it is those weak conference games that are holding the PAC 12 back.

    VaHorn

  • MJRuffalo said...

    not in the computers eyes. Because more conference games mean more losses (each conference game is .5000< while OOC win percentages are usually much higher than that) and many computers use opp win percentage as a major factor.

    Like how the sec has 6 teams in the top-10, but it is not like all 6 of those have played each other. Hell Georgia has only played 1 of the other 5.

    SOS?

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    not in the computers eyes. Because more conference games mean more losses (each conference game is .5000< while OOC win percentages are usually much higher than that) and many computers use opp win percentage as a major factor.

    Like how the sec has 6 teams in the top-10, but it is not like all 6 of those have played each other. Hell Georgia has only played 1 of the other 5.

    Pardon me, Mr. Ruffalo, but Georgia has played both Florida and South Carolina. I'm pretty sure that equals two.

    I don't mind your slander of my team, but please be accurate when doing so.

    Thank you and Fight on!

    This post was edited by GeorgiaBoy on 11/12/2012 at 8:29 PM

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