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The thread is about conservatives. I doubt he was only implying that.

I really like Evan Bayh but it seems he's gotten out of politics atleast for the time being to take a couple corporate jobs. I tend to like democrats from republican states simply because they believe in fiscal responsibility but aren't as hardcore 'bible thumpers'.

Pretty sad that we can only come up with a few names. Ron Paul is easily the first name that comes to mind, but look how successful he's been on the national stage.

No way. We need a President who can defeat Iran, not Kobyashi.

Must be glad BLF gave you that easy out huh? And at least I know what year it is. Maybe you can link some articles from the 30's that would be relevant to our discussion here. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You didn't admit it, you tried to pass it off as whatever. So yeah I am going to rub your face in it for a couple days.

Because right after it you played it off as "well if history is any indication"...Not a satisfactory admission. I want a complete surrender. I demand one.

As of right now, it's wrong.

But I publicly stated that if Romney governed like he did in Massachussetts I would have voted for him, but since that wasnt a guarantee, I couldn't take that chance?

One point I'd like to make that ties in to the OP's thread title; conservative/liberal is a bad grouping much like our degeneration into a two-party system.

Most people would lump me in the conservative category, much like they do Ron Paul. However this is extremely myopic in that it completely negates my "modern liberal" views on most social issues. I, like the majority of Americans, fall under what would be the Libertarian umbrella if you must classify me. Now I am a bit more extreme than most (very fiscally conservative and am for the legalization of all drugs...). If we go back in history, I wold be defined as a "classical liberal", as would any libertarian leaning person. Thomas Jefferson is one of the greatest minds in our nation's history (actually, world history).

You have people that are fiscally liberal and socially conservative, where do you put them??? (other than out of their misery, j/k).

Jill Scott. Interesting.

Conservatives could use Jesus Christ himself as their nominee and not win the election. Too many minorities vote now and the words "conservative" and "republican" scare the living shat out of them. No way another Republican ever wins the presidency IMO. And for the record I am a conservative so this is not a flame.

No, the GOP can win the next election, but it will take one of two things:

* A Libertarian Style nominee - it will be hard for someone like a Ron Paul (not him, but Rand or Gary Johnson or ...) to get the nomination, but they would do extremely well in the general. All GOP voters plus the vast majority of independents. When polled on topics alone, the average citizen is Libertarian (fiscally conservative and socially liberal).

* A female/minority nominee - it will have to be a quality individual with an impeccable background b/c the liberal media will do everything in their power to tear down a female/minority GOP candidate. This would threaten the DEM's major advantage.

A GOP candidate that is for:
* flat or fair tax - a revision that eliminates loopholes and broadens the tax base (everyone pay something)
* Immigration Reform tied to Secure Borders - put illegals to the back of the line, but allow them a legal path that will require them to put into the system (pay taxes). At the same time, secure the boarder and eliminate citizenship opportunity to those that do not comply with the "path to citizenship".
* has one of the 2 aforementioned qualities

= Pretty darn good chance of winning