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Noah has informed me that we have some development time to squeeze in a small project before the next release of boards. We are contemplating several projects, but one that keeps rising to the top are experts rankings:
INDIVIDUAL EXPERT RANKINGS (project details)
*** Experts (that are listed using Crystal Ball feature) can maintain a top 1 to 247 list for both football and basketball for multiple years.
*** Experts list updates immediately after they change/edit list
*** Expert Rankings create "Recruiting Expert Composite" (likely in Q1)
-- Recruiting Experts Composite can be a once per day release
*** Experts can't change rankings after National Signing Day
*** Show trend arrows
***All "stars" are automatic according to current 247Composite ranges
*** Experts only rank "order" -- do not assign value.
*** Generates position and state ranking for Experts based on their sort of the Top 247
We thought it would be real interesting if you could see rankings from each individual recruiting expert that participates in the Crystal Ball. Experts could rank up to 247, but could also stop at a lower number such as a top 10 if they do not feel comfortable ranking to higher levels.
We have about 40 national and recruiting insiders that participate in the National Rankings of 247Sports and this would give an excellent look at the feedback they provide JC and Barton and the rankings committee. It would also be a interesting tool for others outside of 247Sports experts to submit rankings.
Next year with some minor tweaks to our user setup, we will be able to allow users to predict Crystal Ball and rankings.
Thoughts? Do you guys want to see this? It is a relatively small project that we are going to do at some time, just trying to decide where we should prioritize this product.
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It would be awesome to see personally...
But it would also be like dropping a grenade into a 10x10 room.
People now can only complain generally about certain players low rankings. That feature would have people hounding specific analysts for their ranking.
I could see it stirring up lots of unnecessary conflict.
It also could result in undo pressure placed on the analysts affiliated with certain schools. As it is now, it is much easier for them to remain unbiased in their ranking. Opening them up to the scrutiny of their own fans on certain players could prove difficult.
I like it...
Why not fix the page loading issues with Android based smart phones, that issue has been going on for 6-8 months?
I like it.
I'd also like to see some kind of a notation that indicates if the expert has watched the individual prospect in person.
If the "experts" are the national recruiting analysts, then I could see it as an informational benefit to subscribers. If, however, the "experts" would include specific site insiders then the rankings would get quite muddled. It's no offense to those guys, but they mainly focus on guys their respected school is recruiting as opposed to the top 10, 25, or 247 players in the nation.
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We need to know if he has actually seen the guy in person.
It would be awesome. I love how you guys keep pushing the standard
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sounds good and will actually have greater value in time. So, if Noah wants to knock it out over the weekend, turn him loose.
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We need user crystal balls so Weedline can show these FSU fans where their players are going IMO.
That ain't gonna produce more site hits boss.
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How about creating it so team sites can rank prospects in their states as a form of the expert rankings
I think it's a good idea in theory, but I don't think it would actually go that well. Very few (if any) individuals have the time and energy to watch enough film and see enough camps to adequately evaluate the top 247 players without consulting with their peers. I see it as an either/or situation. Either the experts would consult with their peers so much that the results of the Expert 247 aren't particularly dissimilar from the regular Top 247 OR the experts wouldn't consult with each other enough and the results would be invalidated by a lack of information on the part of the experts.
This post was edited by thejumper5 9 months ago
Definitely something I have contemplated. The way we automate things it makes it more complicated to have a group of recruits out on an island (essentially, these are state-ranked kids and do not include them in a national or position compilation). When it's national, things fit nicely into others (it's easy to derive state and position rankings from a national rank).
Having said that, I agree with what you're saying and that's the reason I've put some thought into it.
This. National guys have their own national 247, and team site guys, especially in key states, have their own state rankings. They see the kids in their state the most, presumably.
A Rusty Mansell Georgia ranking, for instance. I know he already has some say, but it would be cool to see any differences in how he rates players.
My only question is If they did that, would it give the kid the same ratings bump as actually committing to Bama does?
Don't disagree, but I think it's still compelling.... especially when it comes to the few differences there may be ... for instance, I think everyone would like to know where the experts individually have Da'Shawn Hand and Leonard Fournette right now.
Like the Crystal Ball, that definitely has its critics, has taken over the "where is that kid going" aspect, I feel these individual rankings among national guys will take some of the finesse out of the rankings game. Things will get much clearer.
This post was edited by Noah 9 months ago
Wagering on a recuit's selection or on the expert's prediction would drive revenue, hits and excitement - briefly anyway:)
It would be cool if in time we could have a quantitative measure on which experts were most accurate (formula based on college production/ NFL draft, etc ). Four years down the road we could see which experts have the best eye for predicting talent.
That would be tough IMO because you could never accurately predict if a kid would use his talent or piss it away
Lots if 5 stars that bomb and its not for lack of physical tools
Grading a kids mental make up would be impossible I think.
Maybe use it for who has the best eye for sleeper talent, i.e. successfully rates the most 3 star talent higher in their own rankings.
Would certainly be interesting especially with the national analyst and their individual rankings. The consensus is fine but I would like to know if one expert disagrees with the majority of the ranking team.
Why not have the crystal ball for experts and a seperate crystal ball for users? Don't even have to list who chooses what, just a general percentage of who thinks who is going where. Obviously it will be biased for the bigger boards but I think it would be cool and get better as the site grows.
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ND and I think another fan base already thinks JC hates them. Sounds like a fun idea.
We will have this. That project involves more resources that we don't have right now with Board Rewrite, so we're choosing "easier" tasks until we get the rewrite done. Unless interest dies down, user Crystal Ball is something we will begin work on in the winter and likely release post-NSD.
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