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Michigan St 7-1/10-2
Ohio St 8-0/12-0
Penn St 3-5/6-6
B1GCG- Ohio St vs Nebraska
I see a turnaround for Michigan St for some reason and don't think last season will be a trend.
Michigan will be improved, but the last 5 weeks of the season, minus @Iowa, should be a pretty tough stretch. Should be at worst 6-1 heading into the Michigan St game. That 5 game stretch could be anywhere from 1-4 to 4-1, IMO and will obviously define their season.
Ohio St's first "real" test (if it happens) should be the B1GCG. Pretty easy for them again this year, IMO.
With an upset or two, I could see Indiana finishing 2nd in the Leaders depending on how Wisconsin gets things going.
This post was edited by BetterOff 12 months ago
Below average FTW!
Meh, I don't see it. You have Michigan losing four games (presumably three at home). We haven't lost a home game since 2010. But I guess we will see.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 12 months ago
I knew I liked you
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
So you're due to lose a couple
The world would be BetterOff without the OP's predictions.
By all means, please skip the thread and post in the thread debating whether the left or right is more dangerous than the other, if you would rather.
Games we realistically could lose:
ND - We lost a close game on the road to the best ND team in 20 years. ND lost far more talent than we did, including top two RBs and top receiver (TE Tyler Eiffert). They also lost their superstar LB and I believe both S. And we get them at home this year. UM wins a close one. Note: This is not a B10 game so it's irrelevant in terms of winning the Legends.
@MSU - We won a close one at home last year. They probably will have a slightly better D and we probably will have a significantly better O. Game is in EL. It's a rivalry game, so very hard to predict. Coin flip.
@PSU - No idea what to expect from PSU. New QB. Depth probably a slight issue. But we play them on the road. It's very hard to predict how good PSU will be until we see a couple games. UM wins a close one.
Nebraska - We lost by double digits on the road last year, but the game was even in the first half until Denard was injured. Second half was a disaster (our backup QB was awful). We get them at home this year and are looking for revenge. FWIW we crushed them 45-17 in Ann Arbor in 2011. UM wins a close one.
@NW - We won a close game at home last year. NW was not able to move the ball on the ground very much, but was through the air. We were playing without our starting QB and without our best CB. NW is dangerous on offense, but not so much on defense. We will be much better on offense this year and NW won't have the talent to stop us. It will be much like the 2010 game. UM wins by double digits.
OSU - We lost by 5 points on the road last year using a backup QB, a backup RB and without our best CB. OSU's offense should be better this year, but so will ours. Our defense also should be slightly better. OSU, however, is replacing 6 of their front 7 on D which makes it a major questionmark. We get them at home, but it's a rivalry game and very hard to predict. Coin flip.
My prediction: UM goes 11-1 (7-1) and wins the Legends. Rematch with OSU in BTCCG.
This post has been edited 10 times, most recently by MrWoodson 12 months ago
I don't see Nebraska making a push. I think they're closer to a coaching change than a title appearance. That division will probably come down to Mich and Sparty with NW as a dark horse due to coaching. Just my $.02.
I would be really surprised if PSU lost 6 games.
Disagree. Nebraska will be good this year. Not NC good, but good enough to challenge for the division. Their B10 schedule is much easier this year too.
Come on. What makes Sparty any better than they were last year? What 2 teams is Illinois beating? Your Michigan and Penn State records are worst case scenario, and Indiana is best case. Purdue and NW should have better records than that. Why isn't Michigan a challenge to OSU? Northwestern and Cal could also give them fits, IMO.
As for Penn State... yes, please keep doubting Coach O'Brien.
Penn State has better starters on offense than most teams in their own division. Michigan State is overrated for your record. You have Northwestern underrated. You have Michigan losing too many games.
Michigan St was a much better team than the record stated last season, IMO. Maxwell isn't as bad as he looked and Bell was probably not nearly as good as he was getting credit for being early in the season. Michigan St has a pretty easy B1G schedule with really only Michigan, @Nebraska, and @Northwestern to really worry about.
I have Illinois pulling off the upset over Wisconsin who will be coming off tOSU and Northwestern and then I have Illinois beating Purdue. Really not a stretch, IMO, although they are a bad team and could easily be 0-8 in the B1G.
Purdue has just about the worst draw of any team in the B1G and I have them losing to Illinois, which could easily not happen, but when they play Illinois, they will be coming off Nebraska, @MSU, tOSU, Iowa, and @Penn St and the Indiana game will be following it. I know IU/Purdue isn't a major rivalry, but with the momentum IU could have going this season, it is bigger than most years, IMO.
As far as Northwestern, I think they are a good team, but I have them slipping up in their first 2 OOC games to start the season.
Michigan isn't a challenge to tOSU, because Michigan is not that good yet and it is a game that tOSU will not look over. I would think tougher games for tOSU would be sleepers @Cal, @NW, and PSU. I see tOSU being head and shoulders better than the rest of the conference and the sleeper games could be more dangerous for them, IMO.
I am not doubting BOB at all. I think he is a great coach, probably 2nd best in the B1G, IMO. The problem is how much must the 1st year guys be relied on and if so, when will things get to be too much for them. The UCF game will be tricky...as will @IU. If those 2 games are wins, then PSU could be heading for another very good year and around 9 wins. I also wouldn't overlook the Syracuse game to start the season though.
I agree that MSU would be exceeding expectations with that record, but someone has to, IMO. I think this should be a tough offseason in East Lansing and the players will either respond well to it or slide back towards the bottom of the B1G. This is a make or break type season for them, even with the run they had. Sliding downward with a still building Michigan program would not be good for them.
Bro. Even if MSU went 14-0 and won the national title... it wouldn't count because Michigan is down.
I stopped reading when you said Leveon Bell was not nearly as good as people think and Illinois will upset Wisconsin. You really should stick to predicting SEC games. Your knowledge of the B10 is underwhelming.
Michigan lost by 5 to tOSU, on the road with a backup QB. That game will be close with going into it favored by a couple points.
This guy gets it.
I'd disagree, I think MSU's record last year says it all. Easy schedule or no, MSU would be lucky to get through those three games with only one loss.
Not a stretch? Did you see how bad Illinois was last year? Oy.
I think Purdue will be better than you give them credit for, primarily due to coaching. But that's very unknown. In general I have a very hard time seeing anyone become a worse head coach than Tim Beckman.
Michigan is plenty good enough. OSU was +2 in turnovers (most of which came well within Michigan territory), and still barely beat them by 5 last year.
UCF will be tricky, but 'Cuse? Really? You're strongly overrating them for both Penn State and NW. Syracuse's coaching staff was decimated, as was the core of their talent. As for @IU, let's just say I'm confident in O'Brien's ability to get a win there after a bye week.
So you thought Bell was that good? I wasn't really impressed. He reminded me of numerous overrated Wisconsin RBs in the past....just in a different color.
Sue me for picking an upset. I gave my reasoning for it. Trap games happen for a reason.
I don't know. Last season I predicted tOSU would have the best record in the B1G and that Michigan would lose 4 games. I was way off on Michigan St and Wicsonsin last season though, although I did have Wisconsin winning the B1G, which did happen. I just thought they would have a much better record.
Backup is a relative term. He had been starting for a decent amount of games at that point and should have been the starter from day 1. If Denard was starting at QB, things would have been worse, IMO.
Like I said, those last 5 weeks will be tough. I would bet on 2-3 or 3-2 the last 5 weeks for Michigan, IMO.
I saw him play a few times. He could be a great piece of the puzzle, but I just didn't think he had the explosiveness to really make a huge impact in big games.
In the 4 games against Michigan, tOSU, Notre Dame, and Wisconsin, he averaged about 60 yards a game and had 0 TDs. He was also held to right at 3 yds per carry in those games.
Bad OL or not, those were not great run stoppers, IMO that he faced in those games. ND seemed like one originally I will admit.
I would hope he had 1700+ yards. He had more carries than Eddie Lacy and TJ Yeldon had for Bama combined and playing 1 fewer game.
Damn...and I only live 35 minutes from the the BCSNCG......
I have no idea what you predicted last year. But Leveon Bell probably was underappreciated last year. Let's see where he goes in the draft relative to other RBs. And as far as Illinois beating Wisconsin, well, anyone can throw out a wild assed upset pick. The question is can you get it right? Wisconsin steamrolled Nebraska in the BTCCG and lost by 6 points to a very good Stanford team in the Rose Bowl. And Wisconsin has virtually everyone back. In contrast, Illinois was God awful last year. They made the bad teams in the B10 look good. They went 0-8 in B10 play. And you are calling for Illinois over Wisky this year? Yeah, ok. Why didn't I see that? Illinois over Wisky is a no brainer.
Didn't mean to quote you Better...
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