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2013 National CFB Look-ahead

  • Best guess at a preseason top 10:

    1. USC (if Barkley comes back)
    2. LSU
    3. Oregon
    4. Clemson
    5. Alabama
    6. Oklahoma
    7. Georgia
    8. Kansas State
    9. Florida State
    10. Michigan

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    appoo said... (original post)

    EJ

    Oh , I thought he was a senior..

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  • appoo said... (original post)

    I think bama will lose 3 or 4 games next year. I see UGA and ark and au possibly beating them, with LSU as a definite lost

    We won't lose to a soft UGA team in Bryant-Deny and while I think Auburn will be much improved on defense they still don't have a QB. However, you could be spot-on about the other two games @ Arkansas and @ LSU with a young defense is going to be tough, but I think we lose one of those games not both.

  • appoo said... (original post)

    I think bama will lose 3 or 4 games next year. I see UGA and ark and au possibly beating them, with LSU as a definite lost

    I know you're about as Anti-Bama as it gets, but I thought there was some realism in there somewhere blank

    We will look like this next year (potentially): * denotes returning Starter, ! denotes returning Significant Contributor

    QB: McCarron*
    RB: Lacy!, Fowler!, Hart
    LT: C. Kouandijo!
    LG: Warmack*
    C: B. Jones*/C. Lindsay
    RG: Steen*
    RT: Fluker*/A. Kouandijo!
    TE: Williams*
    H-Back: Vogler, Jones
    WR: Carter, Bell!
    Slot: C. Jones!, White!

    Defense:
    DE: J. Williams*/Stinson
    NT: McCullers (JUCO)/J. Williams*
    DE: Dial!
    JACK: Hubbard!
    SLB: DePriest!
    WLB: Mosley*
    MLB: N. Johnson*
    CB: T. Dixon (JUCO), G. Smith
    CB: Milliner*, Fulton!
    S: Robert Lester*
    S: V. Sunseri!/H. Clinton-Dix

    This is based off of who may come back- if there's a * player and then / with another player, it means they could go pro and who would play if they did.

    If B. Jones comes back, we'll have only lost our Center off the o-line and we'll be amazing on the line. Lacy will be 100% next year and Fowler and Hart will provide capable backups.

    McCarron will have a year's experience under his belt and we'll have Carter and some other WRs with solid experience forming a good corps.

    On D if we get McCullers and Dixon we'll have two JUCOs shoring up need positions.

    The D-line should be very good if we get McCullers.

    The LBer's will be great, not elite. Mosley is a star in the making, Johnson was a 5* for a reason, and Hubbard and DePriest will be great. Will there be a drop off? Yes. Will it be huge? No.

    The secondary, providing we get Dixon from the JUCO ranks, will be very good as well. With Dixon locking down one CB spot, Milliner will start as well and he's got 2 years starting already. Fulton will be our 3rd CB and he's been a Significant Contributor for 2 years. At Safety it's likely Lester will return to start for his 3rd straight year, and V. Sunseri, who played almost all of the Auburn game this year when Barron came out, will start and trade time with Clinton-Dix, our 5* S prospect from last year.

    So, we'll be very good next year, but not elite IMO. I could see 2 regular season losses. But then again, neither of those losses are guaranteed. We could beat LSU and that will be our hardest game next season. I don't see us losing to Arky, or UGA, but it wouldn't surprise me to lose to one of them. Michigan doesn't have a chance against us though, nor does Auburn without Cam Newton in Bryant Denny ( particularly when they don't have a QB ).

    This post was edited by TalHawkins112 3 years ago

  • I think Bama loses too much talent on defense to challenge for the title next year. They will be good, but the defense wont approach the status the achieved this year

  • hines011 said... (original post)

    Best guess at a preseason top 10:

    1. USC (if Barkley comes back) 2. LSU 3. Oregon 4. Clemson 5. Alabama 6. Oklahoma 7. Georgia 8. Kansas State 9. Florida State 10. Michigan

    I really hope FSU is not preseason top 10. Quite frankly, even with the talent we return, we dont deserve top 10. Until our OL improves, we wont have less than 4 losses anyway so I would rather see us at 13-17. I think we beat WF if EJ isnt hurt but ur OL regressed throughout the year and the loss to UVA with EJ was the last straw for me

  • mmusi34 said... (original post)

    I really hope FSU is not preseason top 10. Quite frankly, even with the talent we return, we dont deserve top 10. Until our OL improves, we wont have less than 4 losses anyway so I would rather see us at 13-17. I think we beat WF if EJ isnt hurt but ur OL regressed throughout the year and the loss to UVA with EJ was the last straw for me

    FSU should have a solid team. FSU loses 5 starters (assuming no jump out of class) and one could easily argue that WR and safety have better 2nd team guys than the respective starter.

    UGA loses 5 starters as well, assuming no one jumps out of class. Big losses for UGA will be on OL. USCe also has a good # of guys returning. UF is still out on offense. Regardless, SEC West wins out. Bama will be hit hard by draft (esp. on defense), LSU, likewise will be hit hard by draft/graduation (estimated 11 starters) and QB losses (Jefferson and Lee gone). Arkansas has less losses to grad/draft. One of these three will win the SEC, though. Auburn is the outside contender here.

    Clemson will likely lose it's OC (Morris) along with 8 starters. The OL and DL hits will hurt Clemson tremendously. UVA loses 13 starters next year, so they are toast (but still have a great coach in London). VT will be hit very hard on offense. Their OL, although it is pretty bad now, will be hit hardest. Not sure if that helps or hurts VT, but VT always will contend in the ACC. GTech will be a strong team in the ACC next year as well (just 5 starters gone). If they can improve on defense (axe Al Groh), they will be a force.

    Out West, Oregon will lose many (12 starters), Stanford loses a great amount as well (including the golden boy QB). USC will be the best team to not be able to win it all.

    OU will have a strong team, again, losing only 5 starters (if Landry stays). OSU will not be strong out there and this was their one big chance to make a splash. KState is one team many will forget about only to get upset by them.

    Up in snowland, Mich State will be solid, assuming they find a QB. Michigan has this year as their 'breakout team', but next year they will be hurting. Wisconsin likewise will be hit by graduation/NFL. Tough year, next year, for B1G. Nebraska and Mich State are the big dogs up there. OSU may be hit by sanctions by then, but Urban begins building his team with Stoops at DC and Morris (Clemson OC). I'll take Nebraska to win this one.

    Big East: Miami wishes it were still in it because it will be another cake-walk conference year. One lackluster team will win it and get plowed like fertile field in spring come bowl season.

    OU, Ark, UGA, Mich State, Neb, USCe, Clemson, KState, and FSU will be top contenders.

  • "USC will be the best team to not be able to win it all".

    If you mean USC can't participate, thats over this year. If you mean we won't get a shot at the NC game I don't doubt it.

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  • LSU should be the preseason #1. Mettenberger can't possibly be any worse than Lee and Jefferson, and they have a trio of darn good RBs returning; certainly enough to score a few points when the defense routinely hands them the ball in the redzone. Their offense is pathetic this year, but it doesn't matter as their D is just that good and just about everybody is returning.

    If Barkley and Kalil returns, USC could be scary good. If not, they have enough playmakers on offense to still score a lot of points, but have a MASSIVE hole on the left side of the offensive line. That is the difference between a good offense, and undoubtedly the best offense in the country. They have a sh*t ton of OL young OL talent, but none of them are capable of playing left tackle. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a true freshman manning that position next year. Same thing in the secondary; if TJ McDonald heads to the NFL, there is nobody proven to replace him. A lot of ifs for them this off-season. If Kiffin is able to talk them into staying, they are NC contenders.

    None of this matters of course because Ohio State now has Urban Meyer; all 25 of the top recruits in the nation will ink with the Buckeyes in February and they will win the next 10 national championships. Just ask any Buckeye fan.

    This post was edited by stoptothink 3 years ago

  • WRobins said... (original post)

    FSU should have a solid team. FSU loses 5 starters (assuming no jump out of class) and one could easily argue that WR and safety have better 2nd team guys than the respective starter.

    UGA loses 5 starters as well, assuming no one jumps out of class. Big losses for UGA will be on OL. USCe also has a good # of guys returning. UF is still out on offense. Regardless, SEC West wins out. Bama will be hit hard by draft (esp. on defense), LSU, likewise will be hit hard by draft/graduation (estimated 11 starters) and QB losses (Jefferson and Lee gone). Arkansas has less losses to grad/draft. One of these three will win the SEC, though. Auburn is the outside contender here.

    Clemson will likely lose it's OC (Morris) along with 8 starters. The OL and DL hits will hurt Clemson tremendously. UVA loses 13 starters next year, so they are toast (but still have a great coach in London). VT will be hit very hard on offense. Their OL, although it is pretty bad now, will be hit hardest. Not sure if that helps or hurts VT, but VT always will contend in the ACC. GTech will be a strong team in the ACC next year as well (just 5 starters gone). If they can improve on defense (axe Al Groh), they will be a force.

    Out West, Oregon will lose many (12 starters), Stanford loses a great amount as well (including the golden boy QB). USC will be the best team to not be able to win it all.

    OU will have a strong team, again, losing only 5 starters (if Landry stays). OSU will not be strong out there and this was their one big chance to make a splash. KState is one team many will forget about only to get upset by them.

    Up in snowland, Mich State will be solid, assuming they find a QB. Michigan has this year as their 'breakout team', but next year they will be hurting. Wisconsin likewise will be hit by graduation/NFL. Tough year, next year, for B1G. Nebraska and Mich State are the big dogs up there. OSU may be hit by sanctions by then, but Urban begins building his team with Stoops at DC and Morris (Clemson OC). I'll take Nebraska to win this one.

    Big East: Miami wishes it were still in it because it will be another cake-walk conference year. One lackluster team will win it and get plowed like fertile field in spring come bowl season.

    OU, Ark, UGA, Mich State, Neb, USCe, Clemson, KState, and FSU will be top contenders.

    You don't know what you're talking about with Michigan, we'll be a better team next year, also Chad Morris already signed an extension at Clemson.

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  • WRobins said... (original post)

    FSU should have a solid team. FSU loses 5 starters (assuming no jump out of class) and one could easily argue that WR and safety have better 2nd team guys than the respective starter.

    UGA loses 5 starters as well, assuming no one jumps out of class. Big losses for UGA will be on OL. USCe also has a good # of guys returning. UF is still out on offense. Regardless, SEC West wins out. Bama will be hit hard by draft (esp. on defense), LSU, likewise will be hit hard by draft/graduation (estimated 11 starters) and QB losses (Jefferson and Lee gone). Arkansas has less losses to grad/draft. One of these three will win the SEC, though. Auburn is the outside contender here.

    Clemson will likely lose it's OC (Morris) along with 8 starters. The OL and DL hits will hurt Clemson tremendously. UVA loses 13 starters next year, so they are toast (but still have a great coach in London). VT will be hit very hard on offense. Their OL, although it is pretty bad now, will be hit hardest. Not sure if that helps or hurts VT, but VT always will contend in the ACC. GTech will be a strong team in the ACC next year as well (just 5 starters gone). If they can improve on defense (axe Al Groh), they will be a force.

    Out West, Oregon will lose many (12 starters), Stanford loses a great amount as well (including the golden boy QB). USC will be the best team to not be able to win it all.

    OU will have a strong team, again, losing only 5 starters (if Landry stays). OSU will not be strong out there and this was their one big chance to make a splash. KState is one team many will forget about only to get upset by them.

    Up in snowland, Mich State will be solid, assuming they find a QB. Michigan has this year as their 'breakout team', but next year they will be hurting. Wisconsin likewise will be hit by graduation/NFL. Tough year, next year, for B1G. Nebraska and Mich State are the big dogs up there. OSU may be hit by sanctions by then, but Urban begins building his team with Stoops at DC and Morris (Clemson OC). I'll take Nebraska to win this one.

    Big East: Miami wishes it were still in it because it will be another cake-walk conference year. One lackluster team will win it and get plowed like fertile field in spring come bowl season.

    OU, Ark, UGA, Mich State, Neb, USCe, Clemson, KState, and FSU will be top contenders.

    You don't know what you're talking about with Michigan, we'll be a better team next year, also Chad Morris already signed an extension at Clemson.

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  • WRobins said... (original post)

    FSU should have a solid team. FSU loses 5 starters (assuming no jump out of class) and one could easily argue that WR and safety have better 2nd team guys than the respective starter.

    UGA loses 5 starters as well, assuming no one jumps out of class. Big losses for UGA will be on OL. USCe also has a good # of guys returning. UF is still out on offense. Regardless, SEC West wins out. Bama will be hit hard by draft (esp. on defense), LSU, likewise will be hit hard by draft/graduation (estimated 11 starters) and QB losses (Jefferson and Lee gone). Arkansas has less losses to grad/draft. One of these three will win the SEC, though. Auburn is the outside contender here.

    Clemson will likely lose it's OC (Morris) along with 8 starters. The OL and DL hits will hurt Clemson tremendously. UVA loses 13 starters next year, so they are toast (but still have a great coach in London). VT will be hit very hard on offense. Their OL, although it is pretty bad now, will be hit hardest. Not sure if that helps or hurts VT, but VT always will contend in the ACC. GTech will be a strong team in the ACC next year as well (just 5 starters gone). If they can improve on defense (axe Al Groh), they will be a force.

    Out West, Oregon will lose many (12 starters), Stanford loses a great amount as well (including the golden boy QB). USC will be the best team to not be able to win it all.

    OU will have a strong team, again, losing only 5 starters (if Landry stays). OSU will not be strong out there and this was their one big chance to make a splash. KState is one team many will forget about only to get upset by them.

    Up in snowland, Mich State will be solid, assuming they find a QB. Michigan has this year as their 'breakout team', but next year they will be hurting. Wisconsin likewise will be hit by graduation/NFL. Tough year, next year, for B1G. Nebraska and Mich State are the big dogs up there. OSU may be hit by sanctions by then, but Urban begins building his team with Stoops at DC and Morris (Clemson OC). I'll take Nebraska to win this one.

    Big East: Miami wishes it were still in it because it will be another cake-walk conference year. One lackluster team will win it and get plowed like fertile field in spring come bowl season.

    OU, Ark, UGA, Mich State, Neb, USCe, Clemson, KState, and FSU will be top contenders.

    You don't know what you're talking about with Michigan, we'll be a better team next year, also Chad Morris already signed an extension at Clemson.

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  • TAMUWolverine said... (original post)

    You don't know what you're talking about with Michigan, we'll be a better team next year, also Chad Morris already signed an extension at Clemson.

    once more, for the road?

    Morris did sign an extension for more money @ Clemson. Damn.....no one can even offer to pay him more now. Travesty......

    Michigan: Do I follow Michigan closely? No. Does your team appear as if you are losing 7 players on offense (RB, FB, WR, TE, OT and Center? Yes. That's 9 total Seniors on your 2 deep, assuming no one jumps to NFL or other attrition. Defense is losing 2 DTs, 1 DE, and 1 CB. Defense loses 8 on 2 deep. Going by your depth chart, that's 17 total that you are losing from your current depth chart. I am not sure of many teams that would not have a drop off based on those #s. I appreciate your optimism that Michigan will have a better team next year, (and it is all conjecture at this point,) but common sense and history are strong indicators that you will have a tough season next year.

    Congrats on your victory over OSU.

  • Wolverine247

    Ducksworth

    WRobins said... (original post)

    once more, for the road?

    Morris did sign an extension for more money @ Clemson. Damn.....no one can even offer to pay him more now. Travesty......

    Michigan: Do I follow Michigan closely? No. Does your team appear as if you are losing 7 players on offense (RB, FB, WR, TE, OT and Center? Yes. That's 9 total Seniors on your 2 deep, assuming no one jumps to NFL or other attrition. Defense is losing 2 DTs, 1 DE, and 1 CB. Defense loses 8 on 2 deep. Going by your depth chart, that's 17 total that you are losing from your current depth chart. I am not sure of many teams that would not have a drop off based on those #s. I appreciate your optimism that Michigan will have a better team next year, (and it is all conjecture at this point,) but common sense and history are strong indicators that you will have a tough season next year.

    Congrats on your victory over OSU.

    On offense, we lose:
    2 WRs (1 starter) but we get back our best WR after being suspended/redshirted for the year
    2 starting OL (Spots will be taken by juniors or seniors so not too worried about our starters at all)
    1TE

    On defense:
    3 DL (this is our biggest loss and will be hard to replace)

    Soooo our entire back seven on defense returns and basically all of our skill positions on offense return. Our OL is solid but lacks proven depth and our DL will need people to step up.

    Try doing research before you say that we'll struggle lol

    We have a very hard schedule (Bama in Dallas, @ND, @neb, @OSU, etc)

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  • WRobins said... (original post)

    Up in snowland, Mich State will be solid, assuming they find a QB. Michigan has this year as their 'breakout team', but next year they will be hurting. Wisconsin likewise will be hit by graduation/NFL. Tough year, next year, for B1G. Nebraska and Mich State are the big dogs up there. OSU may be hit by sanctions by then, but Urban begins building his team with Stoops at DC and Morris (Clemson OC). I'll take Nebraska to win this one.

    Not saying we are going to be anything special, but we don't lose as much as you think. Return the entire OL with the exception of Oglesby, but he is the most overrated player on our team. We have equal to or better talent in the 2 deep. I guess Konz could bolt, but after he got hurt I doubt he gets into the first 2 rounds. Ball could come back, but I would guess he wouldn't. RB is pretty deep and we never really hurt there. Wilson is the biggest loss. so we will see where that ends up. QB has never been a strength for us before so who knows. And Toon is gone.

    Summary = Lose Wilson and Toon and return one of the best lines in the country. Ball is a wait and see. I don't think his draft report will put him in the first round.

    On Defense we lose one DL our worst LB, a good DB, and a good Safety. We return our two best LB's and get two starters back from medical redshirt DE DB. heck we may get better on D.

    I don't think it will be that dire. Although QB will be intersting.

  • Wolverine247

    Ducksworth

    dustelli said... (original post)

    Not saying we are going to be anything special, but we don't lose as much as you think. Return the entire OL with the exception of Oglesby, but he is the most overrated player on our team. We have equal to or better talent in the 2 deep. I guess Konz could bolt, but after he got hurt I doubt he gets into the first 2 rounds. Ball could come back, but I would guess he wouldn't. RB is pretty deep and we never really hurt there. Wilson is the biggest loss. so we will see where that ends up. QB has never been a strength for us before so who knows. And Toon is gone.

    Summary = Lose Wilson and Toon and return one of the best lines in the country. Ball is a wait and see. I don't think his draft report will put him in the first round.

    On Defense we lose one DL our worst LB, a good DB, and a good Safety. We return our two best LB's and get two starters back from medical redshirt DE DB. heck we may get better on D.

    I don't think it will be that dire. Although QB will be intersting.

    I'm still glad we don't have to play you lol

    Who looks to be your QB next year?

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  • WRobins said... (original post)

    once more, for the road?

    Morris did sign an extension for more money @ Clemson. Damn.....no one can even offer to pay him more now. Travesty......

    Michigan: Do I follow Michigan closely? No. Does your team appear as if you are losing 7 players on offense (RB, FB, WR, TE, OT and Center? Yes. That's 9 total Seniors on your 2 deep, assuming no one jumps to NFL or other attrition. Defense is losing 2 DTs, 1 DE, and 1 CB. Defense loses 8 on 2 deep. Going by your depth chart, that's 17 total that you are losing from your current depth chart. I am not sure of many teams that would not have a drop off based on those #s. I appreciate your optimism that Michigan will have a better team next year, (and it is all conjecture at this point,) but common sense and history are strong indicators that you will have a tough season next year.

    Congrats on your victory over OSU.

    Not sure where your getting those numbers but here's how a breakdown
    QB- Denard back again
    RB-Fitz, 1,000 yard rusher back again
    FB- time was split between Hopkins who returns and a walk-on
    WR-we lose Hemingway but return Stonum, Gallon and Roundtree
    TE-We lost our senior TE, someone needs to step up
    OL-We return 4 of the 6 OL that saw significant playing time
    DE- We lose RVB but return multiple players with starts
    DT-We lose Mike Martin, someone will need to step up in his place
    LB-We return everyone
    S-We return our to starters
    CB-we return our two starters

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  • appoo said... (original post)

    LSU-USC would be my title game prediction if Barkley comes back. If not, my prediction is LSU-Clemson

    You don't watch much football.do you?

  • Ducksworth said... (original post)

    I'm still glad we don't have to play you lol

    Who looks to be your QB next year?

    I will give you $5 if you could tell me. lol

    but seriously i think it will be Joe Brennan(will be a RS Soph) or Joel Stave (walk-on soph). for a team that doesn't do that good at the position anyway we have been really snake bitten. Curt Phillips blew his knee out for the second time in the spring and on Med Red. We haven't heard a lot about him and some question if his career is over. The favorite after he go hurt was Budmayr, but he was never going to win out over Wilson and then got shut down during the competition due to injury. Brennan looked like poo at the beginning of the year, but showed promise as time passed. We got lucky on Stave in that he agreed to Walk on. He may have the best arm on the team but is built more like Jim Sorgi. It looks like Bart Houston may graduate early, but i just don't see him making a move.

    Way more than you care to hear about our QB situation. We may lose our OC and RB those are concerns. Only on Ball because he ended up being much more than we thought.