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ripped this from Gentry Estes (hope you don't mind). Another analyst can delete this if you guys have something prepared for ti for tBB.........
We're proud to unveil this morning a very cool upgrade to our recruiting rankings system upgrade that we believe will be a game-changer in this industry.
The 247Composite Ranking takes ratings on prospects through the industry and combines them into one formula. Observe with Tramel Terry ...
The 247Composite Rating is the industry's most comprehensive and unbiased prospect ranking and is also used to generate 247Sports Team Recruiting Rankings. We'll continue to offer the same standard 247Sports player rankings as well.
Here are the gritty details ...
The 247Composite Rating is a proprietary algorithm that compiles prospect "rankings" and "ratings" listed in the public domain by the major media recruiting services. It converts average industry ranks and ratings into a linear composite index capping at 1.0000, which indicates a concensus No. 1 prospect across all services.
All major media services share an equal percentage in the 247Composite Rating.
The composite index equally weights this percentage among the services that participate in a ranking for that specific prospect.
A composite strength meter, indicated by red bars, illustrates the total number of industry services that have ranked the prospect. A full strength meter indicates the prospect has been ranked by all industry services participating in the composite.
All industry services have a different philosophy on number of "stars" distributed with each class. The 247Composite Rating assigns stars based on an approximate average distribution of stars from the industry.
Really cool option
"Because Bama now sucks just like FSU used to suck when we were getting dominated by OU. Does it make sense now?"- Sliger (FSU Fan)
Meant to add this link. Tells a little more how Composite rankings are done...
The 247Composite Rating is the industrys most comprehensive and unbiased prospect ranking and is also used to generate 247Sports Team Recruiting Rankings.
Kickers be killin' us.
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Figured some will probably ask how the industry rank is formulated. I believe it is like this but one of the staff members can correct me if I'm wrong.
industry rank is where they are ranked in the four major recruiting services divided by four (I think). So someone like Reuben Foster is going to have an industry rank of 3.25 meaning 2+2+2+7=13 (ESPN, Scout, Rivals have him as 2nd player. 247Sports has him as 7th) 13/4=3.25. But in the composite rankings that is the 2nd best industry rank still.
Guess we won't have to have discussions on the "well he's ranked this on one of the other sites"...
Ripped this from Lucky (hope you don't mind...)
The 247Composite Rating is the industry's most comprehensive and unbiased prospect ranking and is also used to generate 247Sports Team Recruiting Rankings.
*** All major media services share an equal percentage in the 247Composite Rating.
*** The composite index equally weights this percentage among the services that participate in a ranking for that specific prospect.
*** A composite strength meter, indicated by red bars, illustrates the total number of industry services that have ranked the prospect. A full strength meter indicates the prospect has been ranked by all industry services participating in the composite.
*** All industry services have a different philosophy on number of "stars" distributed with each class. The 247Composite Rating assigns stars based on an approximate average distribution of stars from the industry.
Check out the following applications:
1. Player Profiles: Check out O.J. Howard's profile page: http://247sports.com/Player/OJ-Howard-12042
2. 247Composite Ranking: Ranks 1000s of prospects: http://247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/CompositeRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool
3. Alabama Commit List: Sorted by the 247Composite: http://alabama.247sports.com/Recruit/Commits/2013/Football
4. 247Composite Team Ranking: Most comprehensive and unbiased team recruiting ranking in the industry: http://247sports.com/Team/Ranking/2013/Football
He won't. Most of this is stuff we distributed for publishers last night
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We will need to update rankings/ratings from other services as they change. Easy to do within the Top 100, but we will be doing it for all recruits.
If you see a recruit with one bar and you know others have ranked/rated him, let us know and we'll get it updated.
Got ya. It's non VIP so figured it would be alright.
Here's what I posted on our team site to try to help explain exactly what the ranking is and why it's so useful.
Just wanted to give you a brief explanation on the 247Composite recruiting rankings.
Basically, the 247Composite is an average of how a recruit is ranked on the major network services. It takes the ratings from each site and combines them through a complex formula to spit out a decimal number between 0-1. A 1.000 means that player is the consensus No. 1 rated prospect on all four sites. The higher that number, the higher the player is ranked in the composite ranking.
Why is it important?
Couple reasons. First, it creates a much, much bigger list of players who are ranked. While each site ranks only a set number of players (a few hundred), the 247Composite uses the unique rating system of each site to catch the players who fall outside of those rankings. This allows us to have a ranking of thousands of players instead of a few hundred.
Second, by taking an average of all the sites, it keeps any one site from having a major positive or negative effect. This helps neutralize any individual bias that may occur on the sites. Also, it gets rid of the arguments of "well, this site says he's ranked a four star but this one has him as a three." With one ranking using ALL criteria available, each prospect is now ranked on the same scale. Most accurate and most useful tool out there.
This post was edited by Thomas Goldkamp 2 years ago
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Great explanation. Thanks for adding it. Really love this feature. I have a friend that we discuss recruiting a lot and when we talk we have to try and remember the rankings of players on numerous sites to give an overall ranking. This Composite Ranking will take that discussion and memorization out.
This post was edited by kitemac 2 years ago
What recruiting sites rankings are being used to get the composite score?
I would guess 247, ESPN, Scout & Rivals with each piece of the red bar for each
If you haven't figured it out yet, this is a big deal.
I would think that any newspaper that doesn't have ties to one of the major networks would or at least should use the composite rankings. Why give one sites rankings when you can give all in one...
Really like this feature. Great job being the first ones to jump on it.
I see team ranking has moved UM above Bama as well.
The team rankings use the composite rankings.
Team Ranking uses composite now. The industry says Michigan's class is better than Alabama's at this point.
First off, I love the concept. We argue about rankings quite a bit and it's fantastic that you guys consolidated them.
1)How are the new "team rating" compiled? I understood the formula before, where you get 100% of the 247sports value of your highest rated player, with each subsequent recruit worth less and less (i.e., if you get a guy with a 100 rating, he's worth 100 points, and your 2nd recruit is worth like 98% of their rating, etc.)
Now I'm seeing player ratings of .8831 . . . but am seeing approx. the same #s for team rankings as before, somewhere in the 700s for the top classes. How are those individual #s used; just multiply by 100 and use the old method? (Hence .8831 is factored in as "88.31"?)
2) Can someone provide a quick breakdown of the new numerical composite rankings so as to explain the relative difference between two prospects?
Take Shane Jones. A 3-star per 247 (87) and Scout, while a 4-star on Rivals and ESPN (I assume those are the 3 other sites being used for comparison). HIs "composite" ranking is .8831. When I first saw that, I was thinking he moved up to an "88" ranking on 247, but that's not the case, because that wouldn't garner him the 4-star rating he received.
I went through the Composite list, and there are now 429 4 or 5 stars. The lowest rated 4-star is David Johnson, a WDE committed to South Carolina. He's rated a .8737. The highest rated 3-star is Marquez Grayson, an RB from North Carolina, who's rated .8733.
At a glance, it's easy for me to understand that Player X is rated a 99, or an 87. Telling me he's rated .9087 or .8864 doesn't quite resonate the same way. Could someone provide the rating threshold breakdowns, thereby giving some context for these new values?
This post was edited by MalibuMan 2 years ago
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
We'll I suppose this answers it. I was curious if you were entering the other rankings into your database by hand or had created some sort of web crawler.
Time and change will surely (truly) show
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I can answer your second question cause I did the same. Composite also takes an average of amount of 5 stars, 4 stars, 3 stars, etc. They use that amount to set the amount of each rank. They are still using the Guassian formula but basically converting all the other sites ranks to 247Sports ranks then plugging it in to the same original formula.
At least I think... Someone can correct me if wrong.
Sparty, I expect JC (who is on a plane right now) or Lucky to write up something about these two questions (great ones by the way). I don't want to mess up the answers because they can easily be messed up.
Edit: Just saw Kite's post above. This guy get the 247Composite :) Still going to let JC clarify anything later when the piece comes out.
This post was edited by Noah 2 years ago
Scout? Your not using Scout are you? Please say no!!!!!! This is bull chit if you are. they have a huge bias against the entire south!!
This post was edited by wrightman1 2 years ago
You can always still just look at 247Sports recruit rankings. Composite recruit rankings and team rankings use the other sites.
At the very least I can BS people enough to believe me...
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