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I can't trust a Mormon. That religion is for stupid people. Straight up.
The most shocking thing in this thread, are the hypocrites claiming Obama is not a Christian, while supporting a person who has flat out stated that THEY are not a Christian, in Mitt Romney.
Are you going to argue that a faith that has added an entire book to the Bible, as Mormons have, is now a Christian faith? If you are going to do that, then you might as well call Muslims Christians as well, since thats what the Quran is. Another book added on to the Bible.
If you look at the OP it simply states that Romney is attacked for being Mormon and Barack for being a Christian. Then Barack's status as a disciple of Christ was called into question.
No one question's Romney being a mormon and ALL Mormon's think they are Christians so I'd like to see a link on him saying that. I nearly married a Mormon and know many of them. Not claiming "Christian" as a title would be a very novel moment.
This post was edited by fsufsu 20 months ago
mormons consider themeselves christians. Silly religion though, but then again most of them are.
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They can "consider" themselves that all they want. How is creating an entire faith based on completely separate writings now "Christian".
If Romney is considered Christian, because he says he is Christian, why is Obama NOT considered a Christian, despite the fact that Obama has never followed the teachings of a "prophet" like Joseph Smith, and never once claimed to be anything else BUT a Christian?
The OP is the most hypocritical person on the planet. He claims Obama is not a Christian, yet Romney is? How is that possible? So we can make up anything we want and add it to the Bible, and we are still Christians as long as we are Republicans now? Is that FSU's stance?
Religion should never even be brought up when on the topic of politics. Separation of church and state is one of the founding principles for our country, even if many people ignore it.
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So how can you call Obamas status as being a Christian into question, and be completely okay with some cultists, with completely non-Biblical teachings being nominated for President?
Why is Obama saying he is Christian not good enough for you, but someone who is NOT in a true Christian faith is perfectly fine?
Your reading comprehension is alarming.
Your first paragraph is basically me entire point. Saying "I'm a Christian" in no way makes a person a disciple of Christ. And yes, most Christians believe that one must be converted from the Mormon faith to Christianity. So, so far so good.
"Most hypocritical person on the planet" --- Good grief man, the hyperbole and dramatics can't go any higher.
I never said Romney was a Christian. I said he claimed to be one. No puedes leer.
The rest of your post is just more general dramatics and ignorance.
Are you a real person? I feel like you aren't really trying to converse with me.
So why are you calling out Obama for claiming to be a Christian, when he has never publicly followed any faith but Christianity, yet you dont even mention Romneys being an open member of a cult as being any sort of issue?
Why are you judging someone who attends a CHRISTIAN church and has always done so, yet not even mentioning Romneys lack of true faith?
You are the one that only mentioned your lack of belief in Obamas faith. You never once said anything about Romneys OBVIOUS lack of a Christian background.
have you seen the guy they call the pope with his shiny hat ?
or all the giant gaudy churches ?
or the constant whining about God after football touchdowns ?
or the ones that protest funerals ?
there are needy people of all types all across the world, religious or not.
This post was edited by horned_lurker 20 months ago
You need to figure out what you actually believe in, and whats really important to you.
You coming on here, calling into question Obamas religion, while completely ignoring the other person in your original post, is pure hypocrisy.
How can you, as a true Christian, ignore the fact that Romney is a member of a cult. In every definition possible, he is a cultist running for President. Is this not important to you at all?
It may help you to know I dont support Romney and dont think he is a Christian. The assumptions you make preclude you from having even a decent debate much of the time.
dont you find it funny that atheist expend time, energy and money over something they say doesnt exist?
I mean c'mon guys.... if you say you have leprechauns following you all day, my response is "yeah, yeah" and I go about my business.... leprechaun atheists would launch a campaign against leprechauns in the work place.... they're as dumb as a sack of rocks
Again...why did YOU single out Obama as not being Christian in your original post?
I am not the one that brought any of this up. You are. Your silence on Romneys faith is deafening, especially when compared with your rather continuous stream of comments regarding anyone elses faith, especially the Presidents.
How can people that do not believe in anything be so damn argumentative?
How I feel about this:
I wish I knew more about why a lot of atheists have to be on the offensive all the time. I am an atheist but that does not define me as a jerk who will piss on other peoples' beliefs. In fact I will support anyone's beliefs as long as they are steadfast in them. I would never go bashing a religion just to make my beliefs appear to be more true or to gain favor with others.
It's ridiculous but there are a lot of Christians who do the same. I don't like to generalize it to any group...some people are assholes and this is another thing that gives them the avenue to be such.
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I don't care what you think - I actually am dating a christian and it's no big deal. We've literally never fought over it once in 3 years.
We care that you (or at least, your demographic) vote based on what you think.
we don't expend time , energy, and money over something we don't think exists.. we expend it against the influence of people that do think God exists.
That's the fundamental difference.
Just an FYI, Obama states that he was "not raised in a religious household".
That's where part of the whole, "he's a closet non-believer" thing comes from. The vast, vast majority of christians affirm their belief at 14 years of age and under (something like 85%). People who aren't raised religious rarely become religious later in life.
Not gonna argue about it, because his word is all you have in a debate like this, but that's where the speculation comes from.
What's pathetic is that you portend to know what cannot be known.
You are so blinded by your own idiocy that you are now the gate keeper to heaven...
The saddest party about it is that you think you're right on doing so.
Ha ha ha ha ha, you know the president enough to take his belief from him, and declare it null... Ha has ha big head much?
You are a very sad man
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That's most of the Christians that I know. That's why they condemn gay-marriage but you always catch them talking to women on their period. Just sayin.
You see that sign that says 'Rib Tips'??
Really? So those are real numbers? Never mind that not a single disciple of Jesus affirmed his belief as a child, yet they are the ultimate Christians? . Its now this? That people out here actually think that there is some sort of age barrier to becoming a Christian?
I hope that some of you are just trolling, and not actually this stupid. And if you are this stupid, you have the decency to never marry, and never have any children.
You just can't generalize Christians or atheists as a whole. I've met both good and bad in each group.
This post was edited by danny007 20 months ago
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