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Clemson wins 34-23. There is no way Auburn outscores them, regardless of the Watkins suspension.
ha. wrong thread. I was just in the clemson vs. au prediction thread so when I read this I initially thought I was back over there and had almost lost my mind. You almost got me there.
Oh no he didn't
Yeah, I f'd that up pretty bad - wasn't paying attention. However, I am going to leave the post here, and if wrong, will be back to take my medicine on 9/2.
"A worse team can definitely have a better schedule than a better team with the same schedule and that is shown by UGA being better than Auburn, but Auburn beating every team they played that UGA played along with UGA losing to a team that Auburn played."
Not even close to what I said nor what the other poster stated. A worse team could not expect to play a same schedule with better results. It's not logical, and it would take a made up scenario to even conspire.
"I don't think you can give AU a loss to a team they beat though regardless of when they played. I also wouldn't call South Carolina's worst defensive showing of the season their best game of the year. "
Scar defense won that game scoring 28 of their 42 points (one of them required a 1 yard rush to finish off). If you find a better defensive showing out of them last year I want to see it. The only reason we scored so many was due to Crowell being able to gain 20 -30 while being met in the backfield by defenders.
Either way I am done as this is stupid to pull certain games when it works out for a irrelevant point and omit the factors that prove against your theory. I agree that there is some hypothetical worst case scenario that can be drawn up to look like we have a bad season but the reality is we go 10-2/9-3 with either our or Aubies schedule last year. They go 8-4/9-3 at best on the other. Regardless I realize that I will not convince you enough to sway from your tendency to pump Auburn when its not vs AL and I will do nothing but chuckle at your made up scenario in which Auburn does better than us last season, so this conversation is purportless.
LOL, yes I realize you squeaked out a victory in columbia last year as it was the reason we went to SEC championship. I just doubt you would do it any other week or for that matter if the game were played again. That's was SCar's anuual crap our pants night, and I'm glad yall were there for it. But I certainly doubt you would do it in week two after facing another top 10 team in week 1 as was being discussed in that argument given how young yall were last year as we were too.
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I am not attempting to pump Auburn in anyway, but I am not going to agree with saying Auburn would have lost to South Carolina and Florida last season if they had UGA's SEC schedule when they actually beat them last year.
Logic would say that at worst AU would have been 9-3 with UGA's schedule if you included Boise with losses to UGA (since you can't swap that game), Boise, and maybe Tennessee since Bray was healthy for the start of that game. Best case would have been 10-2 and a trip to Atlanta just like UGA.
If the schedules were swapped on the other side, I have losses to South Carolina and LSU, since those actually happened and losses to Alabama and Arkansas (this one could have gone either way though). that makes for 8-4, possibly 7-5, but I am saying UGA would have beaten Clemson, with a best case scenario of 9-3 if the Arkansas game was won.
I am not trying to convince you. I am just giving my reasoning. I do think UGA was better than Auburn and they proved that on the field, but better teams don't always have better records.
What's up with all the AU haters? All these thUGA fans mad? We know what the deal is with the BAMMERS.
Come talk to us when y'all actually win another national championship, or for that matter let us know next time y'all come CLOSE to winning one!
"Those blue jerseys put the fear of God in people" -Pat Dye
I see a worse team doing worse than the better team did. Records rely heavily on circumstance and scheduling and they are not as interchangeable as you are making them out to be. For instance... it would have been much nicer playing SCar after Utah St. in week 1 rather than after #4 Boise St. I could sit here and make up a scenario in which we had Auburn's OOC last year and we go undefeated until the SECCG. Either way it's silly because the whole point of this conversation was to compare the two teams. Rather than use the best comparison someone brought up common opponents. I think that a mute point due to our earlier conversation, and you disagree and think they might do better. That's just opinion, but either way the it's silly because what's the point in looking at "if this" or "if that" if the two teams faced off.
and FYI, you have a pretty consistent posting record of "pumping" Auburn when the conversation is not AU-UA. Well tbh sometimes you pump them even then if its crazies from BOL starting crap with them. I understand its in efforts to show you are reasonable and not a homer, and I believe that you are pretty fair in your opinions towards other teams, but the tendency is there and obvious.
AU beat SC and UF last year with a worse team than this year. Or did you forget about that?
AU's team last year was worse than this year? That remains to be seen.
It waS way less talented and less experienced.
If you disagree, then you are retarded... we already know you are.
Haha, when you go 7-5 are you still going to be saying this?
We're recruiting lights out, nothing is going to stop that. It's going to be nice taking 4 of the top 5 kids in GA routinely.
So returning 18 starters and having a full year experience for the Tr. Freshan and RSFr. that started and played is going to make the team worse....how?
QB play can't be any worse IYAM. But technically you are correct. But if you are going to stick with that, then this entire thread can be summed up with your statement and the rest of it is moot. Remains to be seen. Regardless we actually beat those teams last year. So....
HaHA....remains to be seen. Here's an idea. Contribute something worth reading.
Maybe that has to do with the fact their program is very good shape save for one aspect. Gene Chizik has to get control of the kids down there and he can't continue to let Luper and Co continue to run things as loose as they do. If he doesn't get that taken care of, then yes, he will be gone in the next few years, but if he does, they should be in position to have some really great teams as early as 2013, IMO. When he got there, the program was as low as I had seen it since the Barfield days. They dropped like a rock quickly and there were some close to the program that were ready to just sit back and accept that their time was over with Saban at Alabama. Chizik and his staff gave them exactly what they needed. They brought in some arrogant approaches to things that may have not set well with some, but it was needed for them at the time and they lucked out a bit with getting Cam and that set them up for an outstanding year with some experienced good, but not amazing talent around him.
I think most reasonable Auburn fans are not forgiving Chizik for the fact that they are now facing a 2nd rebuilding year in a row because of some off the field discipline issues, but I think they are willing to let a coach at his first major program learn a little on the job as well. The positives that are ahead definitely outweigh the negatives of a possible 7 win season this year, but even at 7 wins, a 9 win season will need to follow it or he could be gone or at least truly be on a very hot seat.
Most of what I said, goes for UGA as well actually. There are some major off the field issues that a 10-2 regular season masked that have been going on for quite a while as well. It saved Richt his job last year, but even with the extension, the alumni and admin should demand more quickly and not just this year, but the next and the next or you have to question if the guy is ever going to be able to break through. Of course, the admin at UGA is very fickle and I am not truly sure if they want National Titles or if they are content with winning the East and beating Florida once every 5 years or so.
I am not sure if you were on TOS back when Shula was the coach at Bama, but I was calling for his head after his 10-2 season in 2005, as I saw things were really no better than they were in 2004....and they weren't any worse in 2006 when he got canned. A bad coach can get masked by an easy schedule and/or a solid group of veteran players.
I think Auburn could go 7-5 and still be much better than last year, honestly.
I don't think you've been following this thread close enough to post on this
If you had any inkling to what Chizik came into at AU, you would understand the situation AU is in. Obviously the off-field problems doesnt help but WE all knew it was gonna take 4-5 yrs to get where we wanted. 1 natty title and 1 sec championship came unexpected but we all knew the SR laden team had a shot to be good but didnt know how good (Herbstriet knew :). I expect us to be vastly improved and will shock some folks along the way, but their will be hicups, no doubt. Talent is definitely their and there are no signs of it slowing down...I'd be more pissed if I was a UGA fan knowing they've recruited top 10 classes for 10 plus st8 yrs and have O natty titles...
da Gus Bus
No I have followed it, but your logic is not sound. What I have said is what every person who has disagreed with your position has said. You are trying to say that if the schedules were swapped AU loses to those teams. AU actaully beat those teams so I am not sure how you come to that conclusion. Brantley being in the game against AU could have may a difference, but no sure way of knowing that. But that is no different than you saying that USCe played their worst game of the season against AU. Three things we know for sure happened AU wins against those two and Loses to UGA, LSU, because they did. AU had a much tougher schedule and worse team than UGA and still won those games. So not sure how you can say that AU loses to them. It all hypothetical anyhow, but that logic does not compute.
great post bruh
you did it last year too and they sucked last year and were bound to suck last year. I know you probably feel like you know more about auburn than I do but I live about 20 min from Jordan Hare and up until 2008 I had season tickets there annually. I pull for Auburn, I pull for Alabama, but I disagree with you 100% on the status of the program.
"Most of what I said, goes for UGA as well actually. There are some major off the field issues that a 10-2 regular season masked that have been going on for quite a while as well. It saved Richt his job last year, but even with the extension, the alumni and admin should demand more quickly and not just this year, but the next and the next or you have to question if the guy is ever going to be able to break through. Of course, the admin at UGA is very fickle and I am not truly sure if they want National Titles or if they are content with winning the East and beating Florida once every 5 years or so."
We don't have any more issues than anywhere else, its news at UGA its being "processed" at UA, bottom line is not everyone works out and different teams handle discipline in different ways. I would prefer if we didn't advertise it as much as we do but I don't make the decisions for UGA. As far as MNC's, they mean more to the teams that win them than others. I will be a little more interested in who wins this year due to the playoff system. I fully believe if this system were in place during the duration of the BCS we may have 2 during Richt's tenure. JMO. Don't know, and don't really care. As far as UF They had a good run as we did up until the mid 80's. We'll see where it goes from here, they have had our number here recently. Winning the east will mean winning the SEC soon to come, no side ever holds dominance that long and it would be naive to think otherwise.
"I am not sure if you were on TOS back when Shula was the coach at Bama, but I was calling for his head after his 10-2 season in 2005, as I saw things were really no better than they were in 2004....and they weren't any worse in 2006 when he got canned. A bad coach can get masked by an easy schedule and/or a solid group of veteran players."
I think you feel like this is necessary because you are assuming I am a Richt supporter...? I guess? Not sure. But considering you feel Chizik is anything better than average, I am very comfortable with holding a different opinion of quality of coach.
tBB first methinks
you guys have way more off field issues than anyone else.
Your best tackle is still on roids.
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