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MattC doesn't count. He's 15 years old.
"Playing here is the closest thing to heaven on earth..." - Brian Rolle
Oh, I'm not saying he's intelligent or that he should be taken seriously, I was just using him as an example for why Cope is wrong (as usual).
Still not quite looking like post-apocalyptic LA, proud of you guys.
Time and change will surely (truly) show
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We were so close to losing it....
I admit I went off a little on Cope, but he's gone now so we're cool.
We need Gregory to be just that, and he has the potential to be ... but we won't know until game time unfortunately.
Badgers. Breaking in an odd front. 50-50 usage of 3-4 vs 4-3.
DE/OLB David Gilbert 6-4 255 was a big loss. Sitting out the year and preparing for the next draft. Would've played some OLB in the new scheme.
NT Allen 6-3 335. Can and will do much more since he won't be asked to just take up blocks even in a 3-4. Quick and strong for his size. Big butt, doesn't get pushed back. Perfect NT.
NT Bryce Gilbert 6-1 307. Space eater. Will be needed even more for depth at NT.
DE/NT Hemer 6-6 319. Long and good against the run.
DE Herring 6-3 286. Very athletic but has been asked to bulk up to play inside.
DE Muldoon 6-3 260. Another guy that fits the 3-4 better.
DE Zagzebski 6-3 267. Played sparingly but will provide depth.
DE/OLB Kelly 6-6 258. Very good at getting to the QB, horrible at wrapping up.
DE/OLB Dippel 6-4 267. Best pass rusher on the team imo. Strong and fast with good technique.
New guys like Adeyanju 6-2 260, Keefer 6-3 260+, Goldberg 6-3 286 will be asked to provide depth at DE. Obasih (incoming fr) will be asked to bulk up and play DE. Hayes 6-2 240ish, James (new guys) are probably going to be used as OLB now. Very tough to say who's on the DL vs LB.
Don't feel like looking up the stats. They'd be misleading since the old scheme asked the DL to get blocked so the LBers get large amount of tackles. IMO the Wisconsin DL is underrated with the LBers being overrated.
New scheme and philosphy is going to help the guys on the DL. Allen is a beast, and guys like Dippel will be allowed to play to their strengths.
1 - OSU. Talent already there, talent coming in, and depth.
2 - Wisconsin. the roster is much better suited for the odd front. upperclassmen with a lot of experience. Allen is a beast.
3 - Michigan. I like Pipkins behind Allen as the best big guy in the league. Liked what i saw out of them in year 2 of the new coaches. Lots of room for improvement, and i see that improvement taking place.
4 - MSU. I like their DEs but underwhelmed at the interior of the line. Lost a big guy in White and someone that took up blockers (Gholston).
5 - Minny. Hageman is a beast, and they have good size and talent on the Line.
6 - PSU.
7 - Iowa. Underwhelming from a school that had very good DLines. I see that changing with young guys like Johnson and Ekakitie coming up.
8 - NW - have the leading sacker coming back but what else?
9 - Purdue
10 - Illinois
11 - Nebraska - seriously, do they have anyone? But Kaczenski (or however you spell it is a very good DLine coach).
12 - IU. Good recruits coming in. Damn them for flipping Latham from the Badgers.
This post was edited by pezfez 10 months ago
And I only brought it up because you're a homer
2. Michigan State
4. Penn State
Expecting OSU's star power to give them the best DL in the end. My squad has many returning players with upside, same for Michigan, with some young talent on each squad too. Largely unfamiliar with most of the mid-range DLs.
This post was edited by Cuba Gooding Jr 10 months ago
You should see how many upvotes I'm getting for calling you a whiny little twat.
Rocky, is there a way we can get a tBB mod to keep this thread civil... Seems like there is nowhere for discussion that doesn't turn into a flame war. The antagonists are usually the same set of people...
2. Michigan State
4. Penn State
OSU has brought in 15 kids to play D-Line over the past 3 years (not including this class). They have averaged a 247 rank of 92.667 overall and a composite rank of .936. I would have done 4 years but Hankins left early and the other 2 aren't on the team.
The talent is there.... would anyone mind doing the same for their schools?
Literally right after I posted this he went and downvoted me to see the number.
I forget where it was, but someone on the Michigan board did a comparison a while back that basically showed that if we land Hand and McDowell, it's pretty much a wash star-rankings wise between UM/OSU. (Which makes sense, we've had some pretty highly-ranked DLs, but the Spence/Washington combo is what elevates OSU right now, and Hand/McDowell would cancel that out).
I doubt that analysis included Jalyn Holmes though, so OSU probably has a bit of an edge.
so far this seems more civil than some of previous.. I will be back to rank after I've had time to study up.
WDE Noah Spence, JT Moore, Jamal Marcus, Tyquan Lewis
SDE Adophus Washington, Steve Miller, Joey Bosa, Tracy Sprinkle
DT rotation of Michael Bennett (will play SDE also), Joel Hale, Tommy Schutt, Chris Carter (340 lbs), and Washington will play some DT. Billy Price, Michael Hill, and Donovan Munger will all be FR
My best guess as of right now.
Young and Talented and Deep
correct.. didnt include this year because they cant play...
I hate doing highschool ranking because that doesn't guarantee college production. I would be interested to see where they stand as a unit compared to the conference rankings though.
congratulations on replying to yourself.
for gordo: no it doesn't mean talent is there, means the rankings (and expectations) are there. DL is hardly the place to project based on star rankings. The best that have come out were not ranked high: watt, kerrigan, short, hankins, the illinois guys, the iowa guys etc.
I think one of the "problems" (if you can even call it that) for OSU going forward is just going to be playing time. If all the highly-rated DEs pan out, then you've got a glut of talent. It's not really a problem, but it's just one of those positions where you can only play so many guys. The depth will be insane, but it'll be hard to give guys like Bosa/Holmes snaps at the expense of guys like Washington/Spence.
are price and munger being moved to OL? how big is sprinkle projected to get?
as far as washington and bosa are concerned, they can play inside along with holmes and spence outside.
Playing Adolphus Washington inside is an absurd waste of talent. He's an incredible pass-rusher, why would you waste that on the interior? Not to mention that if you do that, you don't have a single interior DL that weighs more than 300 pounds. They'll get run over by solid OLs.
I'd love to post my opinion and join the discussion here but I might get called out for being biased and I'm just not about that, ya know?
Recognize my life, ridicule my fight. Give me fuel for the fire burning when I yearn these lights.
Bosa is inside. He might end up being a terror. I think he checked in around 280. Washington will stay outside probably. He is a freak athlete even at 295 pounds. He's your NFL first rounder I think before Spence.
Price is going to get time at DT this year. He is up around 300 now. His pictures are beefy.
Sprinkle is odd. I thought he would grow to inside, but they have him playing at LEO right now. I'm guess SSDE will be his cap. Honestly I see him ending up like JT Moore. Just a tweener that never found a place.
Munger may not qualify actually. But if he does he'll play inside. Our OL is actually good numbers wise, we just need more quality depth.
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