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Yeah I don't think we automatically deserve last based off what I or anyone else said, but I can't imagine there being much worse...interested to see what everyone else says about their teams.
I think our return game has a lot of potential this year. Would personally love to see Belton start on punt and kick returns, and have Eugene Lewis be the second guy on kick returns. If the staff doesn't plan on redshirting Richy, then he is definitely another candidate for either spot.
Philly Brown had a couple of return touchdowns last year, and he might get pushed by a couple of freshmen in the fall or Jordan Hall back from injury. Norfleet does seem like he's a threat every time he touches it but hes never actually taken one back and has a long of 38. He should get one this year if he gets a lot of run. Abdullah probably scares me the most in the entire conference.
Ha surprising that nobody is that amped to talk ST.
Who's returning for your team in terms of specialists? How did they do last year?
Drew Meyer (So.) - Last year was first year. 80 punts for and average of 41.5 yds and 36 inside the 20. Long of 61 yds. He was remarkable at times and average at others. Got to be really good at pinning the opponent back. Big leg. Looking forward to a more consistent year
Kyle French (Jr.) Last year was 10-16 with a 2-6 mark from 40+. 38/40 PAT
Jack Russell (So.) 0-2 FG and 14-15 PAT
Kyle French (Jr.) 49 with 27 TB's and 2 OB
Jack Russell (So.) 28 with 1 TB and 1 OB
James McGuire (Jr.)
Who are the return men coming back, and are there any RS or true freshmen that you expect to contribute?
PR Jared Abbrederis (Sr.) - Career Avg of 11.2 yds. had an off year due to injuries with 6.5. 2011 averaged 15.8 yds and a TD
Kenzel Doe (Jr.) - Average of 12.4 yds and a TD on 9 returns.
Melvin Gordon (So.) 7 for an average of 21.6 0 TD
Kenzel Doe (Jr.) - Averaged 23.6 yds on the career with 0 TD. Last year was his best with a 27.9 average on 7 returns.
James White - 6 for 19 yd average.
It's tough to say what will happen here. They have to get Abbrederis of returns given that he is our only proven WR. The same can be said for Gordon and White. have hinted at such anyway. The only guy i know will be there is Doe. There are a couple young recievers i could see getting time, but hard to say based on the WR depth is undetermined. For now some guys to watch out for are Rob Wheelwright, Leo Musso, Jazz Peavy, and Jakarrie Washington. Peavy and Washington are very intriguing based on their return footage from highschool.
As above, give your squad's kick and punt return offense and defense, your field goal % as well as total # of makes and net punting numbers.
KICK RETURNS: Wisconsin 22-489 22.2 Opponent 46-898 19.5 -- obviously outscoring the opponent 414 to 268 makes this double.
PUNT RETURNS: Wisconsin 26-212 8.2 Opponent 28-180 6.4
KICK OFFS: Wisconsin 61.4 with a net of 50 Opponent 63.5 with a net of 39.7
PUNTS: Wisconsin 41 with a net of 36.1 Opponent 39.8 with a net of 36.8
FG%: Wisconsin 10-18 for 56% Opponent 13-18 for 72%
4) Are there reasons you expect improvement compared to last year, or reasons that the position may be worse off?
I think our kicking will be improved on both sides. French was highly rated and it seemed more mental than physical last year. Both have the skills and both have a year under their belts now. Our kick coverage has been pretty decent especially punts. I expect this to trend upward with the depth we have available for ST coverage units. Where i am not sure is the return spots. Given what i mentioned earlier this could either take a step back or forward based on who they have. The one thing i will say is that one of the worst units in Bert's tenure have been ST's. We have had very talented specialists as well as good coverage unis, but schematically he was an idiot. I have a feeling the upgrade in coaching may show through this year.
1) Northwestern 2)Michigan 3) Ohio State 4)Purdue 5) MSU 6)Iowa 7) Wisconsin 8)Illinois 9)Nebraska 10)Indiana 11)Minnesota 12) Penn State
The PSU fans up until now are being overly harsh. Our ST's aren't great, but there is a lot of value in having a kicker and punter both with a year of experience (of which neither had any last year). From everything I've seen, kickers and punters take about half a year to a year to adjust.
That said, our punter and kicker aren't the most talented, but I'm confident our ST's is not automatically last.
I'm surprised Tim Lincecum gave up on baseball so quickly. He just threw a no-no the other day.
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Sorry I haven't been around; crazy week at work meant no time for the second job .
Right now we only have a couple of votes in, so anyone that would like to chime it feel free!
As I see it, there are a couple of great returners in Abdullah and Mark, a couple of good PKs in Budzien and Gibbons and some good punters in Sadler and the guy from IL whose name escapes me.
Kinda hard to differentiate between the teams quite frankly, other than PSU's request to be last, ha.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Can we be first instead? Being last doesn't feel good.
7) Ohio State
8) Michigan State
12) Penn State
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This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
I do wonder where we would have been ranked had we not all asked for last place. Would be interesting to see how much school reputation factors into rankings over actual personnel.
3. Michigan State
4. Ohio State
11. Penn state
Was the freshman kicker, kicking off a block in HS? Some kids struggle early with the adjustment.
I have no idea. I know he's hit some very long FGs, was accurate in HS and was named the #1 K in the country; that's all I got on him.
You guys always seem to have pretty darn solid kickers. Conroy struggled last year from what I saw, but most years you guys are rock solid there.
And his struggles were so strange, given how consistent he was in years prior
Missed FGs in 3 games I believe that MSU lost by 3 points or less.
Indeed. I remember him missing at least 1 shortish FG in the Michigan game and being pretty shocked.
Must have been a confidence thing.
I think he was perfect from 50+ too.
Sigh. And for another bit of bad luck, I think that our opponents combined for 1 miss on a FG opportunity all year. Converted 24 of 25, I think only Nebraska missed one.
BTN had their "mock draft" earlier this week. Mauro Bondi was the first Kicker taken, fwiw.
Drew Basil, Ohio State - Wesley White
Jeff Budzien, Northwestern - Brent Yarina
Mauro Bondi, Nebraska - Tom Dienhart
No, the INS isn't chasing him; Taylor Martinez just runs like that. . . .
That's only because there was no battle for the Land Grant Trophy last year.
Yea, other than the John Goss year, MSU has been pretty solid; Edinger to Raynor to Goss (blech), then Swenson to Conroy. It's like 2 bad K seasons out of the last 15 or so.
I think playing a true FR LS had something to do with Conroy's struggles, particularly early. Pepper (the LS) put out a tweet asking if anyone had "trick snap" requests, and Sadler (the holder/punter/potential Rhodes Scholar/SNL writer) shot back "How about you try the one where you hit me in the hands?"
Some steadier play at LS should help the new K, but we won't know if he can make clutch K's until, well, he does it. I remember being nervous with Conroy, and he ripped off something like 13 straight FGs without a miss. We shall see though.
I'm looking forward to MSU getting some speed at the KR position. It seems that State is good back there every other year. Heck, even Nick Hill was good in 2011 (around 23 YPR) and that dropped down into the 19 YPG range.
One thing that wasn't mentioned is that MSU returners fumbled the ball a couple of times this past year. It wasn't always a TO, but ball security is a top priority and I think Hill doesn't see much time at KR as a result. AJ Sims Jr. could be a very good PR though.
Coverage remains kind of an issue, but PR/KR D are among the least probative stats in CFB. Even teams with elite ATH like Bama have mediocre #s in those categories . Still, it's something to look at.
Rocky, definitely surprised to see the drop off in Hill's production. I didn't watch much of the Spartans last year, but he was certainly pretty good 2 years back.
Have you reviewed the missed FGs to see if the snaps were off screwing up the timing? Was Conroy taking a shot at him or joking?
Ya know, I'm actually looking forward to playing you guys again. Maybe it's a case of absence making the heart grow fonder . . .
It was Sadler, not Conroy, and I really don't know if it was serious or not. I kind of took it as semi-serious.
I haven't reviewed all the missed FGs. I know the one vs. OSU was off bad snaps.
I rather play you guys to end the year than Wisconsin.
My bad, I meant Sadler. So one of the misses and no word if the snaps were to blame for the others. Any word if Pepper is still lacking on his accuracy?
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