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Of course, this has turned into a heated discussion (to say the least), but I think you said it best... The build up is going to be great. I'm not sure who has the most loyal (and sometimes wishful) fans, ND or AL. I've got friends in random parts of the country that love both teams, with a weird, blinding passion, even though they didn't go to those respective schools. I'm crossing my fingers for just such a game. I'm looking for a room and flight right now (call me an SEC fan more than anything...)
In all fairness, Vegas had every SEC team thats in the top 10 as a 9+ favorite against Notre Dame. Im not saying that Alabama would win but theres plenty of people that dont think Notre Dame can beat Bama, Ga, Florida, Lsu or Texas A&M.
the great part of it all is that it will be played on the football field.
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what was the spread when bama played a&m?
I saw that as well. I am not saying I don't feel that a number of SEC teams could beat Notre Dame, but the guys in Vegas aren't in the business of predicting games. They are in the business of predicting betting lines. Any top SEC team is going to get a 2-3 point bump against Notre Dame for perception, because the betting public will jump heavily on the SEC team.
What did Vegas have for Texas A&M vs Bama? How about ND vs Oklahoma? What about Oregon vs Stanford? How about KSU vs Baylor?
Scored 4 touchdowns...in a single game. Polk High!
First of all, Bama will have an easier road to the game. Yeah, the Iron Bowl, but Auburn is just inexplicably and absolutely awful this year. And Georgia has 1 quality win and 1 no show in South Carolina. I expect them to lose big to Bama, probably by 20.
ND will have its hands full. This new QB is not some campus walk on. He takes risks and throws downfield. Plus he has nothing to lose. I think the Irish will win, but by a nose. Maybe by a 37 yard FG to go up 3 with less than a minute to play. USC/Kiffin has alot on the line here. They are trying to salvage a season of utter disappointment and a recruiting class that many would move from solid to soft during the month of December. With this game, Kiffin is fighting for his very job there.
You mean the same Vegas that had Oklahoma -10.5 against Notre Dame and Alabama -16 agianst Texas A & M? I wish people would stop acting like the SEC is far and away better than anyone else. The ruth is that the only good SEC wins so far are over each other. I just think its amazing that Vegas thinks Notre Dame would be dogs by more points than they allow. Alabama, Georgia, Florida and LSU are all flawed teams. None of them can do a thing offensively, so itll come down to defense.
ND would play any SEC "elite team" closely.
What a classic game ND-Bama would be. Only sissies without any calluses on their hands (or Georgia/Florida fans) wouldn't want to see that. And it would be good for America to see two physical football teams play hard for a championship to remind us that grit and sweat count more than sitting in the air conditioning listening to Nickelback.
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13.5 at game time
Bama and ND have one common opponent in Michigan.
ND allowed 6 points. Bama allowed 14 points.
Alabama scored more points against. Notre Dame allowed less points. Means nothing.
And neither does your comment that "SEC good wins are only over each other".
Didnt really consider Michigan a good win for Alabama. If you do...
Alabama has played two top 15 teams, they are 1-1. Point differential -1.
Notre Dame has played two top 15 teams, they are 2-0. Point differential +24.
Its just funny that Alabama fans now need to claim Michigan as a big win. Early in the season, it was just Michigan.
A USC team with a first time starting freshman QB?
If Notre Dame doesn't win that game handily, then they deserve the doubts that they are getting now.
We could sit here all day going back & forth about lines, favorites & who would clobber who. Bottom line is, Bama is a great team & ND is trying to prove they are great. The games are played on a field not on a message board. ND still has to beat a very talented USC team in their own stadium & Bama has to play a dangerous UGA. If it happens it will be the biggest MNC game ever between CFB's 2 most storied programs. Who would have thought this was possible?
You are right. If ND loses to SC they are pretenders.
No, at this point Alabama fans don't have to claim anything. Michigan sucks. Their defense was slow and not very physical at all. The fact that they have crept back near the top 10 in defense really shows how weak the rest of their schedule has been. We beat them by 27 if I remember correctly. Alabama just has to win. There is no need to claim anything. It is all there to be taken. Same for Notre Dame and UGA. Let the people that need this and need that claim stupid sh!t if they want to.
Both team are still trying to prove they are great, IMO. Neither is great yet. It takes championships to get that label, IMO.
Are you mentally challenged? When did any Bama fans claim Michigan as a "big win"?
If Bama beats UGA next weekend, they will have played three top 10 teams and beating two of them. Also have and will have a better SoS.
It was 13, I believe. Thats why I said i wasnt the one saying Alabama was gonna roll but theres plenty if people who apparently think us and everbody else in the Top 10 woukd so its not a ridiculous thought at all. It actually shows what the majority thinks. Upsets happen. When Vegas sets these lines its for even money purposes. So they and the majority of people believe that if both Alabama and Notre Dame play their "A" game then Bama would be a 10 point favorite. If you've read my posts, you'd know i think it will be a much closer game than what Vegas believes. The Alabama that got beat by Texas A&M isnt generally the team that shows up in big games. It was an upset, nothing more.
Exactly, and the lines can be skewed big time one way in many cases. The site I bet with has something called the "power line" which shows what the line should be on a neutral field and not considering what amount of money is being bet either way.
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