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>Michigan fans claiming to have the best overall bbaal and football teams
lol. ZERO Sweet Sixteens since, what, 1989 and you claim to be the best? Really? ZERO Sweet Sixteens in the entire LIVES of current high school recruits.
The correct answer to this question is:
1b. Ohio State
2. Michigan State
If MSU can sustain the football success for a couple more years (never dipping below 9 wins), it will jump to 1b above Ohio State-OSU has only been great, not elite, in basketball. Although UF bball doesn't have the 'it' factor in basketball, you can't argue with 2 NC's and an extra Final Four in there, and their football success keeps it at 1a.
If you would read, we are saying we think we have the best combo for just THESE upcoming seasons. Not historically.
I saw that. The topic isn't really about the statuses RIGHT this moment, it's clearly more about overall consistency and status. Even if you only look at through the lens of right this moment, UM really isn't up there. They have the preseason rankings, but not the actual substance. Remember, UM basketball was thoroughly outplayed by a 13 seed MAC school in the first round this past tournament. UM is not a serious contender in basketball, and football has a long way to go with the much tougher schedule.
MSU and OSU will probably compete for the best combo school this year, with UW having a seat at the table.
This post was edited by Rabid 20 months ago
This is correct, everybody who ranked Michigan higher than MSU is incorrect.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
Butthurt Sparty is butthurt, per usual.
Florida with the combo of Billy Donovan & Urban Meyer was the best. That is the past. Thad Matta has destroyed Donovan's Gators 2 years in a row. And Urban is now a Buckeye.
Since 2004.... Matta has won the Big Ten regular season 5 times which is better than Izzo. 3 Big Ten Tournys, 4 NCAA Sweet 16, 2 Final Four, 1 NCAA 2nd place.
Oh yeah, Matta's record against Michigan is 14-2.... What's Izzo's
MSU football will need to win a few more BCS games. We both know that MSU won't win a national championship in football - so that eliminates them from the conversation.
On the other hand, it is realistic OSU wins 12 games this year and is in the hunt for a Nati in 13'
Basketball was invented in 2004?
And are we really going to compare the quality of coaches by comparing their records against a middling Big Ten program? Lol. Why not NCAA tourney winning percentages, final fours, etc?
Either way, using the arbitrary year of 2004, MSU has out-performed OSU in basketball.
This post was edited by L_Himmler 20 months ago
Football was invented in 2008?
Well, according to you, basketball was invented in early 2012.
Nope. I'm just saying we have the best combo for this season. I admitted we aren't even in the running if past seasons are taken into account.
Hopefully Anthony Grant will put us in this discussion soon.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BamaFreak1978 20 months ago
That's when Matta arrived! And YES, it does matter. The Program is only as good as the coach.
You have a good basketball program which I greatly respect but you are not on our level.
I just like being part of the conversation. I do not understand the football or basketball schools who are so invested in their identity they feel any success by the lesser program would distract from the bigger program. In the Big Ten and the SEC for that matter there is enough money to go around to support both programs. I love me some football but I also love me some Madness in March.
Is that the same level that matches tOSU with the best team in the ACC challenge last few years. tOSU plays the premier team - not MSU.
We took on Duke the year before last and Carolina the year before that.
I agree with that
If Missouri surprises in the SEC, they could have a say in having the strongest combo.
Their bball team is pretty loaded right now.
AG is a very good coach, I think he fits well at Bama too
Wisconsin. Florida has sucked in football for 2 years running.
Could also say Michigan State.
Bama may nab this distinction in the next years though.
I don't know if they'll outright take the title of best combo, but they'll certainly be in the discussion. Bama's bball program is coming along nicely. Arkansas' too.
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