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You play them on the road in very difficult environments though. A night game at Notre Dame and a long trip to Nebraska will be very tough wins. I'm sure you didn't think you would win only four games a few years ago too. I'm not trying to rip on Michigan and they can win those games but if someone asked me right now each game individually without taking in account the name on the front of the jersey thats the way it shakes out.
I actually predicted us to go 7-6 last year. 7-5 is an absolute worst-case scenario for this season. Agree to disagree, but 9 wins would have been a far safer prediction.
You could've saved face, but now, UofM fans are just going to bump this thread when you're wrong.
This post was edited by ScoutExile 2 years ago
I also think Michigan could lose to Iowa or Purdue as well. Anything can happen in college football and there is no team that is pegged for 10 wins this year in the B1G. In the past you have had teams like OSU and Mich that have been loaded and you knew they would be top 10 teams, and although teams will get to 10 wins I don't think you can guarantee anything. I wouldn't be surprised if Michigan won 11 games or 6 games, same with Nebraska or any other top team.
I just don't understand why so many UofM fans take it personal and still don't provide a reason why they think they will do better.
Okay, but you also have Michigan losing 4 toss-ups, too, right?
I'm just saying your odds of being right aren't good.
I will believe in Notre Dame when Kelly shows he can actually coach. I put Kelly in the Ron Zook category now. People keep expecting more but they never live up to it. For me to believe Kelly can do it he actually has to do it. So for now, the ND game is a win for Michigan based on the fact that Kelly can't coach.
I love the Nebraska matchup for Michigan. If I had to choose one team to play on the road out of Nebraska, MSU and Iowa, I am choosing Nebraska. They struggled mightily to contain QBs who can run. Michigan didn't seem to have to much trouble defending Nebraska last year either. I like Michigan's chances in that game as well.
We're not taking it personally. Just realize you're posting on tBB (a team-neutral site), not RCMB, so we're expecting a real, thought-out prediction.
I agree with this no doubt. 9 wins would be safer but thats just where I was leaning. If I give them two more wins though I have to take a few wins from somebody else though. Every year brings surprises and next year should be no different. I think Michigan will take a bit of a step back and I think Purdue will take a step forward.
+1, solid argument. This is why I posted this so I can see some other well thought out opinions.
Thanks. +1 back.
I'm actually more intrigued by Illinois this year. I think there is more talent on that team than what Zook was able to show. If their new coach(sorry his name escapes me at the moment) is the real deal they could be a better team this year.
Fair enough. Just understand that unlike last year, Michigan returns 12 proven commodities to start on defense. On offense, we have 2 1000+ yard rushers and a solid offensive line. The only weakness on this team might be the inexperienced receivers,
I agreed our LB, DB, OL, RB, QB are definitely proven commodities. I think our D-line still has to prove themselves. Wouldn't you agree that they are NOT a proven commodity. And I assume that you are lumping TE in with the receivers. TE are more than inexperienced, they are just plain weak for us this year.
Even with Weak TE and an unproven DL, I agree with you that 9 wins is more likely than 8 or less.
Lose to Bama, one of ND/MSU, one of Neb/OSU, that puts us at 9-3. And I think we are favorites in every game this year except for Bama, so I think 10-2 is more likely than 8-4.
The Big Ten has just been plain out weak the last few years. I'm not really worried about ND and Nebraska even though they are road games this year. Michael Floyd is gone and he burned us qite a bit in last year's game, and nebraska loses quite a bit on defense. Purdue was not in the same league as us last year, and i think we would have won last year's Iowa game if it was in Ann Arbor.
Stealing Sparty's recruits and owning them on the field since 1898
I haven't looked at the schedules yet, so I won't pick each teams record.
I'll take Nebraska over Wisconsin in B1G Champ game
Is anybody else intrigued by Purdue? Their schedule sets up very nice and with Ohio State out of the picture for the title game they really do have a shot to make it to Indy. Two great defensive players, hopefully a QB, and a few play makers on offense. With Michigan and Wisconsin at home they might make a run.
IMO the B1G is really fairly wide open--I can see any of the following 4 teams winning the conference: Wisky, Sparty, Michigan, Nebraska. tOSU will be improved but they're ineligible, so I'm ignoring them.
Not as long as Danny Hope roams the sidelines in West Lafayette.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
1)JT Floyd - multi year starter
2)Blake Countess - starter
3)Kenny Demens - starter
4)Thomas Gordon - starter
5)Desmond Morgan - starter
6)Frank Clark - starting experience/significant playing time
7)Nathan Brink - fair amount of reps
8)Will Campbell - fair amount of reps
9)Craig Roh - multi-year starter
10)Jake Ryan - starter
11)Jordan Kovacs - multi-year starter
12) Courtney Avery -starting experience/nickle back
Brandin Hawthorne - starting experience/fair amount of reps
Cam Gordon has starting experience but he's been injured a lot
This post was edited by Due51 2 years ago
Damn, Michigan is so good they return 12 starters on defense.....
Our quarterback does front flips, suck it.
Frank Clark had 6 tackles last year (.5 TFL). Nathan Brink had 1 TFL, which was also his only tackle on the year. Will Campbell had 14 (2.5 TFL). Those guys are "proven" members of your D?
As a comparison, Anthony Rashad White, who's set to take over for Worthy at DT this year, had 25 tackles for MSU a year ago, along with 4 TFL. That's 4 more tackles and the same TFL that UM got out of 3 players last year. If those 3 guys are "proven", then I'm not too worried about the loss of Worthy.
Clark was a true freshman who ended up starting the bowl game.
Will Campbell and Brink had a "fair amount of reps" and project as starters or significant contributors. Maybe not a proven commodity, but they're also not complete unknowns.
Frankly, what you consider proven or not is inconsequential. These guys are who they are and they'll be expected to continue building off their experience. If they step up, great. If not, bring in the next guy.
All of those guys have seen significant action in 10 or more games; thus, they're fairly proven commodities.
Clark had 5 tackles and an INT in his first start against Virginia Tech, and played in all 12 regular season games. He's a high-motor guy, and has had a great spring. He set a personal goal of 8 sacks for this season. With his athleticism coming off the end, his goal seems feasible.
Brink played in 11 games, and started 1. He was a bit banged up last year, but is expected to contribute this season. He's a little undersized 263 lbs. for a defensive tackle, but is a solid tackler.
Campbell has played in 38 straight games, but needs to put in a consistent effort and show improved technique. He'll get one last year to live up to the hype he received coming out of high school. Last year, he showed improvement as the season progressed. Hopefully, he will continue to work hard in practice and get results.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by ScoutExile 2 years ago
Well it's true that what I think of a guy doesn't affect his play on the field (obviously), but your last line "If they step up, great, if not, bring in the next guy" is different than your original post of "12 proven commodities". I think you know that those guys are far from proven.
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