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Big Ten Round Table Eight (Aug. 8)

  • ILLINOIS

    9/3 Arkansas State W
    9/10 So. Dakota State W
    9/17 Arizona State L
    9/24 Western Michigan W
    10/1 Northwestern L
    10/8 @Indiana W
    10/15 Ohio State L
    10/22 @Purdue W
    10/29 @ Penn State L
    11/12 Michigan L 37-41
    11/19 Wisconsin L 20-21
    11/26 @Minnesota W 38-7

    6-6 (3-5)

    INDIANA

    9/3 @ Ball State L
    9/10 Virginia L
    9/17 South Carolina State W
    9/24 @ North Texas W
    10/1 Penn State L
    10/8 Illinois L
    10/15 @Wisconsin L
    10/22 @ Iowa L
    10/29 Northwestern L
    11/5 @ Ohio State L
    11/19 @ Michigan State L
    11/26 Purdue L

    2-10 (0-8)

    IOWA

    9/3 Tennessee Tech W
    9/10 @ Iowa State W
    9/17 Pittsburgh W
    9/24 ULM W
    10/8 @ Penn State L
    10/15 Northwestern L
    10/22 Indiana W
    10/29 @ Minnesota W
    11/5 Michigan W
    11/12 Michigan State L
    11/19 @Purdue W
    11/25 @Nebraska L
    8-4 (4-4)

    MICHIGAN

    9/3 Western Michigan W
    9/10 Notre Dame W
    9/17 Eastern Michigan W
    9/24 San Diego State W
    10/1 Minnesota W
    10/8 @Northwestern L
    10/15 @ Michigan State L
    10/29 Purdue W
    11/5 @ Iowa L
    11/12 @ Illinois W
    11/19 Nebraska L
    11/26 Ohio State L

    7-5 (3-5)

    MICHIGAN STATE

    9/3 Youngstown State W
    9/10 FAU W
    9/17 @ Notre Dame W
    9/24 Central Michigan W
    10/1 @ Ohio State W
    10/15 Michigan W
    10/22 Wisconsin L
    10/29 @ Nebraska L
    11/5 Minnesota W
    11/12 @ Iowa W
    11/19 Indiana W
    11/26 @ Northwestern W

    10-2 (6-2)

    MINNESOTA

    9/3 @ USC L
    9/10 New Mexico State L
    9/17 Miami-OH L
    9/24 North Dakota State W
    10/1 @ Michigan L
    10/8 @ Purdue L
    10/22 Nebraska L
    10/29 Iowa L
    11/5 @ Michigan State L
    11/12 Wisconsin L
    11/19 @ Northwestern L
    11/26 Illinois L

    1-11 (0-8)

    NEBRASKA

    9/3 Chattanooga W
    9/10 Fresno State W
    9/17 Washington W
    9/24 @ Wyoming W
    10/1 @ Wisconsin L
    10/8 Ohio State W
    10/22 @ Minnesota W
    10/29 Michigan State W
    11/5 Northwestern W
    11/12 @ Penn State L
    11/19 @ Michigan W
    11/25 Iowa W

    10-2 (6-2)

    NORTHWESTERN

    9/3 @ Boston College W
    9/10 Eastern Illinois W
    9/17 @Army W
    10/1 @ Illinois W
    10/8 Michigan W
    10/15 @Iowa W
    10/22 Penn State L
    10/29 @ Indiana W
    11/5 @ Nebraska L
    11/12 Rice W
    11/19 Minnesota W
    11/26 Michigan State L
    9-3 (5-3)

    OHIO STATE

    9/3 Akron W
    9/10 Toledo W
    9/17 @ Miami-FL L
    9/24 Colorado W
    10/1 Michigan State L
    10/8 @ Nebraska L
    10/15 @ Illinois W
    10/29 Wisconsin L
    11/5 Indiana W
    11/12 @ Purdue W
    11/19 Penn State L
    11/26 @ Michigan W

    7-5 (4-4)
    PENN STATE

    9/3 Indiana State W
    9/10 Alabama L
    9/17 @ Temple W
    9/24 Eastern Michigan W
    10/1 @ Indiana W
    10/8 Iowa W
    10/15 Purdue W
    10/22 @ Northwestern W
    10/29 Illinois W
    11/12 Nebraska W
    11/19 @ OSU W
    11/26 @ Wisconsin L

    10-2 (7-1)

    PURDUE

    9/3 Middle Tennessee St W
    9/10 @ Rice W
    9/17 SE Missouri St.
    10/1 Notre Dame L
    10/8 Minnesota W
    10/15 @ Penn State L
    10/22 Illinois L
    10/29 @ Michigan L
    11/5 @ Wisconsin L
    11/12 Ohio State L
    11/19 Iowa L
    11/26 @ Indiana W
    4-8 (2-6)

    WISCONSIN

    9/1 UNLV W
    9/10 Oregon State W
    9/17 @ Northern Illinois W
    9/24 South Dakota W
    10/1 Nebraska W
    10/15 Indiana W
    10/22 @ Michigan State W
    10/29 @ Ohio State W
    11/5 Purdue W
    11/12 @ Minnesota W
    11/19 @ Illinois W
    11/26 Penn State W

    12-0 (8-0)

    BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME: Wisky vs MSU

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    SCS100

    psu2013 said... (original post)

    MICHIGAN STATE

    9/3 Youngstown State W 9/10 FAU W 9/17 @ Notre Dame W 9/24 Central Michigan W 10/1 @ Ohio State W 10/15 Michigan W 10/22 Wisconsin L 10/29 @ Nebraska L 11/5 Minnesota W 11/12 @ Iowa W 11/19 Indiana W 11/26 @ Northwestern W

    10-2 (6-2)

    NEBRASKA

    9/3 Chattanooga W 9/10 Fresno State W 9/17 Washington W 9/24 @ Wyoming W 10/1 @ Wisconsin L 10/8 Ohio State W 10/22 @ Minnesota W 10/29 Michigan State W 11/5 Northwestern W 11/12 @ Penn State L 11/19 @ Michigan W 11/25 Iowa W

    10-2 (6-2)

    WISCONSIN

    9/1 UNLV W 9/10 Oregon State W 9/17 @ Northern Illinois W 9/24 South Dakota W 10/1 Nebraska W 10/15 Indiana W 10/22 @ Michigan State W 10/29 @ Ohio State W 11/5 Purdue W 11/12 @ Minnesota W 11/19 @ Illinois W 11/26 Penn State W

    12-0 (8-0)

    BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME: Wisky vs MSU

    I might be wrong, but wouldn't Nebraska beating Michigan State head-to-head cause them to be in the B1G Championship Game over MSU?

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  • SpartanTailgate

    SpartanRocky

    SCS100 said... (original post)

    I might be wrong, but wouldn't Nebraska beating Michigan State head-to-head cause them to be in the B1G Championship Game over MSU?

    Yep. I'm predicting Iowa, MSU and NU to finish 6-2, but NU beating both MSU and Iowa, sending them to the title game.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

  • SpartanRocky said... (original post)

    Yep. I'm predicting Iowa, MSU and NU to finish 6-2, but NU beating both MSU and Iowa, sending them to the title game.

    Didn't realize you were that high on Northwestern this year.

  • 247Sports

    Steve Wiltfong

    Gentlemen, I know this is minor to the grand scheme of this discussion but the thing that glaringly stood out to me is that two people think Indiana is going to lose Ball State. The Hoosiers will start the season 1-0, and might do it handily.

    Steve Wiltfong National Recruiting Analyst 247sports.com http://twitter.com/SWiltfong247 http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=50063

  • Steve Wiltfong said... (original post)

    Gentlemen, I know this is minor to the grand scheme of this discussion but the thing that glaringly stood out to me is that two people think Indiana is going to lose Ball State. The Hoosiers will start the season 1-0, and might do it handily.

    Are you guaranteeing a victory?

  • SpartanTailgate

    SpartanRocky

    xxmgobluexx said... (original post)

    Didn't realize you were that high on Northwestern this year.

    I have a deal with the Nebraska fans. I call them "NU", they don't call us "Sparty". Works out for everyone.

    Also, my first post is updated with my predictions. What a pain in the rear.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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    Oaken

    I should have mine up in a couple hours, and like Steve said there is NO way IU will get by Ball State

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  • 247Sports

    Steve Wiltfong

    xxmgobluexx said... (original post)

    Are you guaranteeing a victory?

    Yes! Ball State is going to struggle this fall.

    Steve Wiltfong National Recruiting Analyst 247sports.com http://twitter.com/SWiltfong247 http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=50063

  • SpartanTailgate

    SpartanRocky

    My predictions aren't coming through in the edit . . . . so here's a copy and paste. If it gets fixed, I apologize for posting this monstrosity twice.

    Here we go: Big props to Dix Steele for giving us a template with all the schedules' to begin with. I'm high on the Illini and Hawkeyes, and down on PSU and Michigan (shocking, I know). Schedule has a ton to do with it; if Iowa were to play Wisconsin or Ohio State this year during the regular season, I'd predict an L against both, but they have Indiana and Purdue from the Leader's division.

    Penn State's game against Alabama is going to have some lasting effects. I really think the physical toll of that early game is going to affect their season. If their OL doesn't step up, there could be some major injuries. Speaking from (relatively) personal experience; I watched Alabama knock MSU's top 2 QBs out of the bowl game and PSU's biggest ? is the OL and QBs. Not what you like to hear going into a week 2 game vs. the #2 team in the country, especially one that's known best for it's fearsome front 7.

    I doubt Minnesota actually gos 0-8, but I can't find a game I like; if the Purdue game was @ Minny, I'd probably give it to the Gophers. Starting the year @USC presents similar problems as PSU vs. Bama does, except Minny doesn't have close to the level of talent as PSU.

    ILLINOIS

    9/3 Arkansas State W 45-10
    9/10 So. Dakota State W 38-14
    9/17 Arizona State W 27-20 (I really like IL at home this year and think ASU is getting a tad over-hyped. After 2 cupcakes, IL should be 100% healthy, plus West Coast teams do not fare well coming east)
    9/24 Western Michigan W 35-14
    10/1 Northwestern W 24-17 (Persa's not back in the swing of things quite yet)
    10/8 @Indiana W 31 -6
    10/15 Ohio State L 14-30 (tOSU will be coming off games vs. MSU and Nebraska, should be fiesty after dropping 1 of those 2)
    10/22 @Purdue L 20-28 (Purdue could surprise and I think IL will be a tad beat up after tOSU)
    10/29 @ Penn State L 10-30 (PSU gets revenge for last year's embarassment)
    11/12 Michigan W 31-28 (Tough game for both teams, IL home edge gets the W and guarantees 2nd straight bowl)
    11/19 Wisconsin L 20-38 (Too much beef up front for Wisky)
    11/26 @Minnesota W 26-7

    8-4 (4-4)

    INDIANA

    9/3 @ Ball State W 31-21
    9/10 Virginia L 7 - 30
    9/17 South Carolina State W 34-17
    9/24 @ North Texas W 27-17
    10/1 Penn State L 7 - 31
    10/8 Illinois L 6-31
    10/15 @Wisconsin L 21 - 45
    10/22 @ Iowa L 17-27
    10/29 Northwestern W 21-20 (Best shot at a conference W after a brutal start)
    11/5 @ Ohio State L 6 - 42
    11/19 @ Michigan State L 14-38 (Old Brass Spittoon stays in EL)
    11/26 Purdue W 27-24 (Wilson gets a rivalry W to give the IU faithful Hope .. . . . 's head on a silver platter)

    4-8 (2-6)

    IOWA

    9/3 Tennessee Tech W 27-0
    9/10 @ Iowa State W 28-14
    9/17 Pittsburgh W 22-16
    9/24 ULM W 42-7
    10/8 @ Penn State W 28-20 (Iowa has PSU's #, just like Northwestern has Iowa's #)
    10/15 Northwestern L 20-24 (See above)
    10/22 Indiana W 27-17
    10/29 @ Minnesota W 31-24 (I really think Marquise Gray can be a headache this season, but Minny's D is going to be atrocious)
    11/5 Michigan W 34-17
    11/12 Michigan State W 21-13 (MSU hasn't beaten Iowa at Kinnick since '89. State will be just 1 game removed from the UM-Wisky-@NU stretch. Last season, MSU came into this game tired and beat up, and was run out of the stadium. An earlier bye should make the game more competitive, but the final result is still a Hawkeye W).
    11/19 @Purdue W 27-14
    11/25 @Nebraska L 21-6 (Iowa's weak schedule catches up to them and their O is stifled by a ridiculously tough Nebraska defense)

    10-2 (6-2)

    MICHIGAN

    9/3 Western Michigan W 37-13
    9/10 Notre Dame L 31-17 (Night game won't stop a non-suspended Michael Floyd. Or Manti Te'o. Too much Irish firepower for a new-look UM D and O. Not having a P is going to be a problem)
    9/17 Eastern Michigan W 42-12
    9/24 San Diego State W 28-24
    10/1 Minnesota W 34-24
    10/8 @Northwestern W 31-27
    10/15 @ Michigan State L 3-49 (I think MSU will win, so I had fun with the score. It's the inverse of the 2002 game, where UM took zero pity on a dysfunctional MSU team.)
    10/29 Purdue W 35-21
    11/5 @ Iowa L 17-34
    11/12 @ Illinois L 28-31
    11/19 Nebraska L 14-31 (Nebraska's DL and Peso scheme are the perfect solution to a running QB who's being asked to move the ball through the air)
    11/26 Ohio State L 17-38 (Minimal sanctions for tOSU means a possible CCG berth on the line for one of these schools)

    6-6 (3-5)

    MICHIGAN STATE

    9/3 Youngstown State W 45-7
    9/10 FAU W 38-6
    9/17 @ Notre Dame L 27-31 (Floyd is the only WR I see being able to get behind MSU's D, and that opens up the rest of ND's O. Game could go either way, but road games vs. top 25 opponents are pretty much Ls for MSU until proven otherwise . . . or a change in circumstances like tOSU in game 5)
    9/24 Central Michigan W 27-10
    10/1 @ Ohio State W 23-20 (If there's ever a time for MSU to win @C-bus, this is it. MSU's DEs should give them the edge vs. a new LT/QB combo. Should be a fantastic game)
    10/15 Michigan W 49-3 (Home game after a bye against Public Enemy #1, where MSU enjoys advantages across the board)
    10/22 Wisconsin W 31 - 24 (First conf. road game for Wisconsin. Seriously. Should be another slobber-knocker; both Beilema and Dantonio are 2-0 against each other at home)
    10/29 @ Nebraska L 20 -28 (MSU starts to run out of gas after 2 big, emotional games, especially vs. Wisky's powerful OL. Nebraska's DL is too much for MSU's OL)
    11/5 Minnesota W 34-17
    11/12 @ Iowa L 13-21 (last of a tough stretch of road games, MSU should fight hard, but is too exhausted, especially compared to an Iowa team that hasn't faced a challenge since early Oct.)
    11/19 Indiana W 38-14
    11/26 @ Northwestern W 34-17 (MSU is 3-1 vs. NU under Dantonio, with the only loss coming in OT in 2007. MSU seems to have NU's # and will be playing for a shot at the CCG, dependent on how other games finish)

    9-3 (6-2)

    MINNESOTA

    9/3 @ USC L 12-45
    9/10 New Mexico State W 17-14
    9/17 Miami-OH L 17-20
    9/24 North Dakota State W 31-16
    10/1 @ Michigan L 24-34
    10/8 @ Purdue L 35-38
    10/22 Nebraska L 0 - 38
    10/29 Iowa L 24-31
    11/5 @ Michigan State L 17-34
    11/12 Wisconsin L 21-41
    11/19 @ Northwestern L 20-27
    11/26 Illinois L 7-26

    2-10 (0-8)

    NEBRASKA

    9/3 Chattanooga W 55-0
    9/10 Fresno State W 31-7
    9/17 Washington W 27-0
    9/24 @ Wyoming W 37-6
    10/1 @ Wisconsin L 17-28 (All about the run-game. Nebraska doesn't face many power-run teams, and was carved up by Washington's Chris Polk in the bowl game. No offense to Polk, but Ball/White are individually much better, running behind a superior OL. That does not bode well for NU. Wisconsin has lost a total of 4 home games in the past 6 years confused)
    10/8 Ohio State L 17-10 (Tough game, but tOSU is going to get a huge morale boost with Posey, etc. coming back. tOSU special teams are the difference, as this pits weakness vs. strength for both teams: Strong Ds going up against weak Os)
    10/22 @ Minnesota W 38-0
    10/29 Michigan State W 21 -20 (This game determines the Legends title, even if the teams don't know it for sure at the time. NU gets "BYE, @Minny", while MSU gets UM and Wisky at home in the 2 weeks prior. Big advantage to NU. On a neutral field, I believe these 2 teams are dead even if 100% healthy. Bet is that NU will be close to healthy, and MSU will not be).
    11/5 Northwestern W 38-6 (Nebraska's "Peso" exists to neutralize pass-first spread O's. Perfect match-up for the Blackshirts)
    11/12 @ Penn State W 31-24
    11/19 @ Michigan W 31-14
    11/25 Iowa W 21-6

    10-2 (6-2)

    NORTHWESTERN

    9/3 @ Boston College L 14-21 (BC's D is one of the nation's best; I'm predicting Persa to be rust the first 6 games, and an early bye means 9 straight games to close the year)
    9/10 Eastern Illinois W 38 - 37
    9/17 @Army W 44-20
    10/1 @ Illinois L 17-24
    10/8 Michigan L 27-31
    10/15 @Iowa W 24-20 (Explained above: Northwestern has Iowa's #)
    10/22 Penn State L 17 - 30
    10/29 @ Indiana L 20-21
    11/5 @ Nebraska L 6-38
    11/12 Rice W 35-17
    11/19 Minnesota W 27-20
    11/26 Michigan State L 17-34

    5-7 (2-6)

    OHIO STATE

    9/3 Akron W 38-6
    9/10 Toledo W 42 - 7
    9/17 @ Miami-FL W 31-20 (last time I checked, Jacory Harris was still the QB at Miami. That's worth at least 2 INTs and likely one returned for a TD)
    9/24 Colorado W 35-13
    10/1 Michigan State L 20-23 (Going to be a tough game with a pair of strong DLs. MSU's experience at QB and K should be the difference)
    10/8 @ Nebraska W 17-10 (Tatooed 4 return, and there was much rejoicing)
    10/15 @ Illinois W 30-14
    10/29 Wisconsin L 20-30 (Similar game to last year)
    11/5 Indiana W 42-6
    11/12 @ Purdue W 28-20 (Trap game looking ahead to PSU)
    11/19 Penn State W 17-10
    11/26 @ Michigan W 38-17 (New coaches, same results)

    10-2 (6-2)

    PENN STATE

    9/3 Indiana State W 49-3
    9/10 Alabama L 35-7 (Bama is too fast, too physical and it's too early in the season for PSU's OL and QBs to get comfortable.)
    9/17 @ Temple W 28-7 (Temple, with a new HC, is the perfect solution to the Alabama problem
    9/24 Eastern Michigan W 49-6 (Joe Pa has never been one to take his foot off the gas)
    10/1 @ Indiana W 31-7
    10/8 Iowa L 20-28 (Iowa has PSU's #, no matter where the game is played)
    10/15 Purdue W 17-10
    10/22 @ Northwestern W 30-17
    10/29 Illinois W 30-10
    11/12 Nebraska L 24-31
    11/19 @ OSU L 10-17 (These games are always close, defensive affairs)
    11/26 @ Wisconsin L 14-38 (3rd straight tough game, 2nd straight tough road game, just too much to ask for a young QB)

    7-5 (4-4)

    PURDUE

    9/3 Middle Tennessee St W 45-10
    9/10 @ Rice W 38 - 27
    9/17 SE Missouri St. W 38-10
    10/1 Notre Dame L 16-26
    10/8 Minnesota W 38-35
    10/15 @ Penn State L 10-17
    10/22 Illinois W 28-20
    10/29 @ Michigan L 21-35
    11/5 @ Wisconsin L 20-45
    11/12 Ohio State L 24-28
    11/19 Iowa L 14-27
    11/26 @ Indiana L 24-27 (Hope's last game)

    5-7 (2-6)

    WISCONSIN

    9/1 UNLV W 31-17
    9/10 Oregon State W 35-20
    9/17 @ Soldier Field vs. Northern Illinois W 42-17
    9/24 South Dakota W 63-3
    10/1 Nebraska W 28-17 (Night game in Madison + powerful OL = perfect storm to sink Nebraska's conference debut)
    10/15 Indiana W 45-21
    10/22 @ Michigan State L 24-31 (Again, first conf. road game)
    10/29 @ Ohio State W 30-20
    11/5 Purdue W 45-20
    11/12 @ Minnesota W 41-21
    11/19 @ Illinois W 38-20
    11/26 Penn State W 38-14

    11-1 (7-1)

    LEGENDS Division

    Nebraska 10-2(6-2)
    Iowa 10-2(6-2)
    Michigan State 9-3 (6-2)
    Michigan 6-6 (3-5)
    Northwestern 5-7 (2-6)
    Minnesota 2-10 (0-8)

    LEADERS Division

    Wisconsin 11-1 (7-1)
    Ohio State 10-2 (6-2)
    Illinois 8-4 (4-4)
    Penn State 7-5 (4-4)
    Purdue 5-7 (2-6)
    Indiana 4-8 (2-6)

    BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME: Nebraska v. Wisconsin

    Winner: Wisky

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

  • Steve Wiltfong said... (original post)

    Yes! Ball State is going to struggle this fall.

    Big shocker.

    I like what Wilson is doing in Indiana, though they're still lacking overall talent. Wouldn't be surprised to see them pull an upset or two. Though Ball State would not qualify as an upset...they have an absolutely dreadful football program.

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    BBucksorBeGone8

    SpartanRocky said... (original post)

    Here we go: Big props to Dix Steele for giving us a template with all the schedules' to begin with. I'm high on the Illini and Hawkeyes, and down on PSU and Michigan (shocking, I know). Schedule has a ton to do with it; if Iowa were to play Wisconsin or Ohio State this year during the regular season, I'd predict an L against both, but they have Indiana and Purdue from the Leader's division.

    Penn State's game against Alabama is going to have some lasting effects. I really think the physical toll of that early game is going to affect their season. If their OL doesn't step up, there could be some major injuries. Speaking from (relatively) personal experience; I watched Alabama knock MSU's top 2 QBs out of the bowl game and PSU's biggest ? is the OL and QBs. Not what you like to hear going into a week 2 game vs. the #2 team in the country, especially one that's known best for it's fearsome front 7.

    I doubt Minnesota actually gos 0-8, but I can't find a game I like; if the Purdue game was @ Minny, I'd probably give it to the Gophers. Starting the year @USC presents similar problems as PSU vs. Bama does, except Minny doesn't have close to the level of talent as PSU.

    ILLINOIS

    9/3 Arkansas State W 45-10 9/10 So. Dakota State W 38-14 9/17 Arizona State W 27-20 (I really like IL at home this year and think ASU is getting a tad over-hyped. After 2 cupcakes, IL should be 100% healthy, plus West Coast teams do not fare well coming east) 9/24 Western Michigan W 35-14 10/1 Northwestern W 24-17 (Persa's not back in the swing of things quite yet) 10/8 @Indiana W 31 -6 10/15 Ohio State L 14-30 (tOSU will be coming off games vs. MSU and Nebraska, should be fiesty after dropping 1 of those 2) 10/22 @Purdue L 20-28 (Purdue could surprise and I think IL will be a tad beat up after tOSU) 10/29 @ Penn State L 10-30 (PSU gets revenge for last year's embarassment) 11/12 Michigan W 31-28 (Tough game for both teams, IL home edge gets the W and guarantees 2nd straight bowl) 11/19 Wisconsin L 20-38 (Too much beef up front for Wisky) 11/26 @Minnesota W 26-7

    8-4 (4-4)

    INDIANA

    9/3 @ Ball State W 31-21 9/10 Virginia L 7 - 30 9/17 South Carolina State W 34-17 9/24 @ North Texas W 27-17 10/1 Penn State L 7 - 31 10/8 Illinois L 6-31 10/15 @Wisconsin L 21 - 45 10/22 @ Iowa L 17-27 10/29 Northwestern W 21-20 (Best shot at a conference W after a brutal start) 11/5 @ Ohio State L 6 - 42 11/19 @ Michigan State L 14-38 (Old Brass Spittoon stays in EL) 11/26 Purdue W 27-24 (Wilson gets a rivalry W to give the IU faithful Hope .. . . . 's head on a silver platter)

    4-8 (2-6)

    IOWA

    9/3 Tennessee Tech W 27-0 9/10 @ Iowa State W 28-14 9/17 Pittsburgh W 22-16 9/24 ULM W 42-7 10/8 @ Penn State W 28-20 (Iowa has PSU's #, just like Northwestern has Iowa's #) 10/15 Northwestern L 20-24 (See above) 10/22 Indiana W 27-17 10/29 @ Minnesota W 31-24 (I really think Marquise Gray can be a headache this season, but Minny's D is going to be atrocious) 11/5 Michigan W 34-17 11/12 Michigan State W 21-13 (MSU hasn't beaten Iowa at Kinnick since '89. State will be just 1 game removed from the UM-Wisky-@NU stretch. Last season, MSU came into this game tired and beat up, and was run out of the stadium. An earlier bye should make the game more competitive, but the final result is still a Hawkeye W). 11/19 @Purdue W 27-14 11/25 @Nebraska L 21-6 (Iowa's weak schedule catches up to them and their O is stifled by a ridiculously tough Nebraska defense)

    10-2 (6-2)

    MICHIGAN

    9/3 Western Michigan W 37-13 9/10 Notre Dame L 31-17 (Night game won't stop a non-suspended Michael Floyd. Or Manti Te'o. Too much Irish firepower for a new-look UM D and O. Not having a P is going to be a problem) 9/17 Eastern Michigan W 42-12 9/24 San Diego State W 28-24 10/1 Minnesota W 34-24 10/8 @Northwestern W 31-27 10/15 @ Michigan State L 3-49 (I think MSU will win, so I had fun with the score. It's the inverse of the 2002 game, where UM took zero pity on a dysfunctional MSU team.) 10/29 Purdue W 35-21 11/5 @ Iowa L 17-34 11/12 @ Illinois L 28-31 11/19 Nebraska L 14-31 (Nebraska's DL and Peso scheme are the perfect solution to a running QB who's being asked to move the ball through the air) 11/26 Ohio State L 17-38 (Minimal sanctions for tOSU means a possible CCG berth on the line for one of these schools)

    6-6 (3-5)

    MICHIGAN STATE

    9/3 Youngstown State W 45-7 9/10 FAU W 38-6 9/17 @ Notre Dame L 27-31 (Floyd is the only WR I see being able to get behind MSU's D, and that opens up the rest of ND's O. Game could go either way, but road games vs. top 25 opponents are pretty much Ls for MSU until proven otherwise . . . or a change in circumstances like tOSU in game 5) 9/24 Central Michigan W 27-10 10/1 @ Ohio State W 23-20 (If there's ever a time for MSU to win @C-bus, this is it. MSU's DEs should give them the edge vs. a new LT/QB combo. Should be a fantastic game) 10/15 Michigan W 49-3 (Home game after a bye against Public Enemy #1, where MSU enjoys advantages across the board) 10/22 Wisconsin W 31 - 24 (First conf. road game for Wisconsin. Seriously. Should be another slobber-knocker; both Beilema and Dantonio are 2-0 against each other at home) 10/29 @ Nebraska L 20 -28 (MSU starts to run out of gas after 2 big, emotional games, especially vs. Wisky's powerful OL. Nebraska's DL is too much for MSU's OL) 11/5 Minnesota W 34-17 11/12 @ Iowa L 13-21 (last of a tough stretch of road games, MSU should fight hard, but is too exhausted, especially compared to an Iowa team that hasn't faced a challenge since early Oct.) 11/19 Indiana W 38-14 11/26 @ Northwestern W 34-17 (MSU is 3-1 vs. NU under Dantonio, with the only loss coming in OT in 2007. MSU seems to have NU's # and will be playing for a shot at the CCG, dependent on how other games finish)

    9-3 (6-2)

    MINNESOTA

    9/3 @ USC L 12-45 9/10 New Mexico State W 17-14 9/17 Miami-OH L 17-20 9/24 North Dakota State W 31-16 10/1 @ Michigan L 24-34 10/8 @ Purdue L 35-38 10/22 Nebraska L 0 - 38 10/29 Iowa L 24-31 11/5 @ Michigan State L 17-34 11/12 Wisconsin L 21-41 11/19 @ Northwestern L 20-27 11/26 Illinois L 7-26

    2-10 (0-8)

    NEBRASKA

    9/3 Chattanooga W 55-0 9/10 Fresno State W 31-7 9/17 Washington W 27-0 9/24 @ Wyoming W 37-6 10/1 @ Wisconsin L 17-28 (All about the run-game. Nebraska doesn't face many power-run teams, and was carved up by Washington's Chris Polk in the bowl game. No offense to Polk, but Ball/White are individually much better, running behind a superior OL. That does not bode well for NU. Wisconsin has lost a total of 4 home games in the past 6 years confused) 10/8 Ohio State L 17-10 (Tough game, but tOSU is going to get a huge morale boost with Posey, etc. coming back. tOSU special teams are the difference, as this pits weakness vs. strength for both teams: Strong Ds going up against weak Os) 10/22 @ Minnesota W 38-0 10/29 Michigan State W 21 -20 (This game determines the Legends title, even if the teams don't know it for sure at the time. NU gets "BYE, @Minny", while MSU gets UM and Wisky at home in the 2 weeks prior. Big advantage to NU. On a neutral field, I believe these 2 teams are dead even if 100% healthy. Bet is that NU will be close to healthy, and MSU will not be). 11/5 Northwestern W 38-6 (Nebraska's "Peso" exists to neutralize pass-first spread O's. Perfect match-up for the Blackshirts) 11/12 @ Penn State W 31-24 11/19 @ Michigan W 31-14 11/25 Iowa W 21-6

    10-2 (6-2)

    NORTHWESTERN

    9/3 @ Boston College L 14-21 (BC's D is one of the nation's best; I'm predicting Persa to be rust the first 6 games, and an early bye means 9 straight games to close the year) 9/10 Eastern Illinois W 38 - 37 9/17 @Army W 44-20 10/1 @ Illinois L 17-24 10/8 Michigan L 27-31 10/15 @Iowa W 24-20 (Explained above: Northwestern has Iowa's #) 10/22 Penn State L 17 - 30 10/29 @ Indiana L 20-21 11/5 @ Nebraska L 6-38 11/12 Rice W 35-17 11/19 Minnesota W 27-20 11/26 Michigan State L 17-34

    5-7 (2-6)

    OHIO STATE

    9/3 Akron W 38-6 9/10 Toledo W 42 - 7 9/17 @ Miami-FL W 31-20 (last time I checked, Jacory Harris was still the QB at Miami. That's worth at least 2 INTs and likely one returned for a TD) 9/24 Colorado W 35-13 10/1 Michigan State L 20-23 (Going to be a tough game with a pair of strong DLs. MSU's experience at QB and K should be the difference) 10/8 @ Nebraska W 17-10 (Tatooed 4 return, and there was much rejoicing) 10/15 @ Illinois W 30-14 10/29 Wisconsin L 20-30 (Similar game to last year) 11/5 Indiana W 42-6 11/12 @ Purdue W 28-20 (Trap game looking ahead to PSU) 11/19 Penn State W 17-10 11/26 @ Michigan W 38-17 (New coaches, same results)

    10-2 (6-2)

    PENN STATE

    9/3 Indiana State W 49-3 9/10 Alabama L 35-7 (Bama is too fast, too physical and it's too early in the season for PSU's OL and QBs to get comfortable.) 9/17 @ Temple W 28-7 (Temple, with a new HC, is the perfect solution to the Alabama problem 9/24 Eastern Michigan W 49-6 (Joe Pa has never been one to take his foot off the gas) 10/1 @ Indiana W 31-7 10/8 Iowa L 20-28 (Iowa has PSU's #, no matter where the game is played) 10/15 Purdue W 17-10 10/22 @ Northwestern W 30-17 10/29 Illinois W 30-10 11/12 Nebraska L 24-31 11/19 @ OSU L 10-17 (These games are always close, defensive affairs) 11/26 @ Wisconsin L 14-38 (3rd straight tough game, 2nd straight tough road game, just too much to ask for a young QB)

    7-5 (4-4)

    PURDUE

    9/3 Middle Tennessee St W 45-10 9/10 @ Rice W 38 - 27 9/17 SE Missouri St. W 38-10 10/1 Notre Dame L 16-26 10/8 Minnesota W 38-35 10/15 @ Penn State L 10-17 10/22 Illinois W 28-20 10/29 @ Michigan L 21-35 11/5 @ Wisconsin L 20-45 11/12 Ohio State L 24-28 11/19 Iowa L 14-27 11/26 @ Indiana L 24-27 (Hope's last game)

    5-7 (2-6)

    WISCONSIN

    9/1 UNLV W 31-17 9/10 Oregon State W 35-20 9/17 @ Soldier Field vs. Northern Illinois W 42-17 9/24 South Dakota W 63-3 10/1 Nebraska W 28-17 (Night game in Madison + powerful OL = perfect storm to sink Nebraska's conference debut) 10/15 Indiana W 45-21 10/22 @ Michigan State L 24-31 (Again, first conf. road game) 10/29 @ Ohio State W 30-20 11/5 Purdue W 45-20 11/12 @ Minnesota W 41-21 11/19 @ Illinois W 38-20 11/26 Penn State W 38-14

    11-1 (7-1)

    LEGENDS Division

    Nebraska 10-2(6-2) Iowa 10-2(6-2) Michigan State 9-3 (6-2) Michigan 6-6 (3-5) Northwestern 5-7 (2-6) Minnesota 2-10 (0-8)

    LEADERS Division

    Wisconsin 11-1 (7-1) Ohio State 10-2 (6-2) Illinois 8-4 (4-4) Penn State 7-5 (4-4) Purdue 5-7 (2-6) Indiana 4-8 (2-6)

    BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME: Nebraska v. Wisconsin

    Winner: Wisky

    Great write up Spartan... you really have us losing both games at home? Interesting....

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  • Bucknuts

    BBucksorBeGone8

    psu2013 said... (original post)

    ILLINOIS

    9/3 Arkansas State W 9/10 So. Dakota State W 9/17 Arizona State L 9/24 Western Michigan W 10/1 Northwestern L 10/8 @Indiana W 10/15 Ohio State L 10/22 @Purdue W 10/29 @ Penn State L 11/12 Michigan L 37-41 11/19 Wisconsin L 20-21 11/26 @Minnesota W 38-7

    6-6 (3-5)

    INDIANA

    9/3 @ Ball State L 9/10 Virginia L 9/17 South Carolina State W 9/24 @ North Texas W 10/1 Penn State L 10/8 Illinois L 10/15 @Wisconsin L 10/22 @ Iowa L 10/29 Northwestern L 11/5 @ Ohio State L 11/19 @ Michigan State L 11/26 Purdue L

    2-10 (0-8)

    IOWA

    9/3 Tennessee Tech W 9/10 @ Iowa State W 9/17 Pittsburgh W 9/24 ULM W 10/8 @ Penn State L 10/15 Northwestern L 10/22 Indiana W 10/29 @ Minnesota W 11/5 Michigan W 11/12 Michigan State L 11/19 @Purdue W 11/25 @Nebraska L 8-4 (4-4)

    MICHIGAN

    9/3 Western Michigan W 9/10 Notre Dame W 9/17 Eastern Michigan W 9/24 San Diego State W 10/1 Minnesota W 10/8 @Northwestern L 10/15 @ Michigan State L 10/29 Purdue W 11/5 @ Iowa L 11/12 @ Illinois W 11/19 Nebraska L 11/26 Ohio State L

    7-5 (3-5)

    MICHIGAN STATE

    9/3 Youngstown State W 9/10 FAU W 9/17 @ Notre Dame W 9/24 Central Michigan W 10/1 @ Ohio State W 10/15 Michigan W 10/22 Wisconsin L 10/29 @ Nebraska L 11/5 Minnesota W 11/12 @ Iowa W 11/19 Indiana W 11/26 @ Northwestern W

    10-2 (6-2)

    MINNESOTA

    9/3 @ USC L 9/10 New Mexico State L 9/17 Miami-OH L 9/24 North Dakota State W 10/1 @ Michigan L 10/8 @ Purdue L 10/22 Nebraska L 10/29 Iowa L 11/5 @ Michigan State L 11/12 Wisconsin L 11/19 @ Northwestern L 11/26 Illinois L

    1-11 (0-8)

    NEBRASKA

    9/3 Chattanooga W 9/10 Fresno State W 9/17 Washington W 9/24 @ Wyoming W 10/1 @ Wisconsin L 10/8 Ohio State W 10/22 @ Minnesota W 10/29 Michigan State W 11/5 Northwestern W 11/12 @ Penn State L 11/19 @ Michigan W 11/25 Iowa W

    10-2 (6-2)

    NORTHWESTERN

    9/3 @ Boston College W 9/10 Eastern Illinois W 9/17 @Army W 10/1 @ Illinois W 10/8 Michigan W 10/15 @Iowa W 10/22 Penn State L 10/29 @ Indiana W 11/5 @ Nebraska L 11/12 Rice W 11/19 Minnesota W 11/26 Michigan State L 9-3 (5-3)

    OHIO STATE

    9/3 Akron W 9/10 Toledo W 9/17 @ Miami-FL L 9/24 Colorado W 10/1 Michigan State L 10/8 @ Nebraska L 10/15 @ Illinois W 10/29 Wisconsin L 11/5 Indiana W 11/12 @ Purdue W 11/19 Penn State L 11/26 @ Michigan W

    7-5 (4-4) PENN STATE

    9/3 Indiana State W 9/10 Alabama L 9/17 @ Temple W 9/24 Eastern Michigan W 10/1 @ Indiana W 10/8 Iowa W 10/15 Purdue W 10/22 @ Northwestern W 10/29 Illinois W 11/12 Nebraska W 11/19 @ OSU W 11/26 @ Wisconsin L

    10-2 (7-1)

    PURDUE

    9/3 Middle Tennessee St W 9/10 @ Rice W 9/17 SE Missouri St. 10/1 Notre Dame L 10/8 Minnesota W 10/15 @ Penn State L 10/22 Illinois L 10/29 @ Michigan L 11/5 @ Wisconsin L 11/12 Ohio State L 11/19 Iowa L 11/26 @ Indiana W 4-8 (2-6)

    WISCONSIN

    9/1 UNLV W 9/10 Oregon State W 9/17 @ Northern Illinois W 9/24 South Dakota W 10/1 Nebraska W 10/15 Indiana W 10/22 @ Michigan State W 10/29 @ Ohio State W 11/5 Purdue W 11/12 @ Minnesota W 11/19 @ Illinois W 11/26 Penn State W

    12-0 (8-0)

    BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME: Wisky vs MSU

    Three home losses? What is it about Penn St that we should worry about , again?

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  • SpartanTailgate

    Big Doug

    Steve Wiltfong said... (original post)

    Yes! Ball State is going to struggle this fall.

    So Brady Hoke failed to lay a lasting foundation @ Ball State? Say it ain't so.

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    SCS100

    Big Doug said... (original post)

    So Brady Hoke failed to lay a lasting foundation @ Ball State? Say it ain't so.

    It's Ball State, and he's been gone since 2008. What did you expect?

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  • SpartanTailgate

    Dix Steele

    Good write-up Rocky. I really don't see Bama hammering PSU in front 100K + after losing several program-changing players. They certainly will be favored to win, but not by four touchdowns. JoePa may not look like he has a heartbeat (wink) but his program still does. It'll be a 1 or 2 possession game when it's all over.

    Hard for me to imagine it will be Hope's last year after just 3 seasons.

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    SpartanRocky

    BBucksorBeGone8 said... (original post)

    Great write up Spartan... you really have us losing both games at home? Interesting....

    Our game vs. you guys is more about the inexperience at QB/LT vs. what should be a strong front 4 from MSU. Per our latest media day coverage, our front 4 looks like this:

    WDE: Soph Will Gholston, 6'7 283

    DT: RS JR Jerel Worhty, 6'3 310

    NT: RS JR Rashad Anthony White, 6'2 316

    SDE: RS JR Tyler Hoover, 6'7 290

    Average weight: 299.75. That's just enormous. I have no clue whether or not they'll be good lol, but Cousins was complaining in the spring that the Hoover/Gholston combo interfered a lot with his sight-lines. Young QBs, especially mobile ones, tend to overestimate their own running ability and underestimate their opponents. I'm not saying that Gholston can catch Miller from behind, but that Miller may underestimate the closing speed of some of these players. It's a game of split-seconds and inches, and when you're used to being able to run away from most opposing DL easily, there's an adjustment period. Replacing Adams with an inexperienced LT could be a problem as well. One grace is that these guys aren't speed rushers (obviously), so it won't be a foot-speed issue at the OT spots.

    Not having a set WR like Posey during this game is going to make the progressions a bit harder for Miller, but I expect Stoneburner to be an excellent safety valve.

    I also think the beef in the middle (MIKE Max Bullough is 6'3 245) should help a lot if you guys start Rod Smith, or a power runner. I know tOSU's D is going to be great yet again, but in this battle, I like the edge that Cousins gives MSU in terms of experience, and we've got a ton of experience in the skill positions to make adjustments at the LOS easier; the WRs have been catching passes from Cousins for the past 3-4 years, with the exception of Nichol (obviously lol).

    I think you probably take more issue with my prediction about Wisconsin. It's an OL/DL thing there; I'm predicting a bit of a shootout. I just love Wisconsin's OL with White and Ball taking the pressure off of Wilson. Also, I'm predicting Wisky to be coming off of an L to MSU, so they know they need to beat tOSU to win the Leaders.

    Let's just say that I'm most confident in my Sept. predictions and least in Nov. The injury situation can completely change the outlook for these teams (Northwestern or Purdue last year for example, UM's DB situation last year, though their D was going to be bad regardless).

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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    SpartanRocky

    Dix Steele said... (original post)

    Good write-up Rocky. I really don't see Bama hammering PSU in front 100K + after losing several program-changing players. They certainly will be favored to win, but not by four touchdowns. JoePa may not look like he has a heartbeat (wink) but his program still does. It'll be a 1 or 2 possession game when it's all over.

    Hard for me to imagine it will be Hope's last year after just 3 seasons.

    I just look at a QB situation at PSU where you've got a guy who started a bit last year, then got yanked, and has threatened to transfer leading guys into battle against probably the best front 7 in the country in game 2. If it was game 10, when Bolden has had a chance to really settle in, then I'd expect a closer game. Also, I believe Bama returns 4/5 OL starters and Trent Richardson.

    I think PSU's D should be much better, but I have questions about their DL. And their OL. Basically if you're going to be at a disadvantage vs. Bama you don't want it to be in the trenches, but that's where I see PSU's greatest weakspot being. Just sets up for Bolden to get teed off on by Upshaw/Hightower/Nico Johnson or whatever other 4-star/5-star 6'4 250 pound LB Saban wants to attack with.

    I also don't see PSU's WRs being able to get off the line against Kirkpatrick, who's only a few inches shorter than Moye. Add in Mark Barron, perhaps the best S in the country last year, as well as Lester, who picked off 7 passes last year . . . . just does not look pretty for PSU.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

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    Dix Steele

    SpartanRocky said... (original post)

    I just look at a QB situation at PSU where you've got a guy who started a bit last year, then got yanked, and has threatened to transfer leading guys into battle against probably the best front 7 in the country in game 2. If it was game 10, when Bolden has had a chance to really settle in, then I'd expect a closer game. Also, I believe Bama returns 4/5 OL starters and Trent Richardson.

    I think PSU's D should be much better, but I have questions about their DL. And their OL. Basically if you're going to be at a disadvantage vs. Bama you don't want it to be in the trenches, but that's where I see PSU's greatest weakspot being. Just sets up for Bolden to get teed off on by Upshaw/Hightower/Nico Johnson or whatever other 4-star/5-star 6'4 250 pound LB Saban wants to attack with.

    I also don't see PSU's WRs being able to get off the line against Kirkpatrick, who's only a few inches shorter than Moye. Add in Mark Barron, perhaps the best S in the country last year, as well as Lester, who picked off 7 passes last year . . . . just does not look pretty for PSU.

    Good point, I forgot how stacked Bama's OL will be. In case you didn't see it, here is Rivals preseason OL rankings:

    http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1246717

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    SpartanRocky

    Dix Steele said... (original post)

    Good point, I forgot how stacked Bama's OL will be. In case you didn't see it, here is Rivals preseason OL rankings:

    http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1246717

    I saw it, I think that's where I got the 4/5 returning starters from (or maybe Phil Steele's, I've been reading it on the EL every morning to get the rosters into my head for the Big 10 and other big time programs this year).

    Also, this highlights my hopes for beating tOSU; no Mike Adams.

    Now I've got to cross my fingers and hope tOSU slips up enough to not play in the CCG. Would like to avoid a revenge game against them at full strength! lol

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

  • SpartanRocky said... (original post)

    MICHIGAN

    9/3 Western Michigan W 37-13 9/10 Notre Dame L 31-17 (Night game won't stop a non-suspended Michael Floyd. Or Manti Te'o. Too much Irish firepower for a new-look UM D and O. Not having a P is going to be a problem) 9/17 Eastern Michigan W 42-12 9/24 San Diego State W 28-24 10/1 Minnesota W 34-24 10/8 @Northwestern W 31-27 10/15 @ Michigan State L 3-49 (I think MSU will win, so I had fun with the score. It's the inverse of the 2002 game, where UM took zero pity on a dysfunctional MSU team.) 10/29 Purdue W 35-21 11/5 @ Iowa L 17-34 11/12 @ Illinois L 28-31 11/19 Nebraska L 14-31 (Nebraska's DL and Peso scheme are the perfect solution to a running QB who's being asked to move the ball through the air) 11/26 Ohio State L 17-38 (Minimal sanctions for tOSU means a possible CCG berth on the line for one of these schools)

    6-6 (3-5)

    OHIO STATE

    @ Miami-FL W 31-20 (last time I checked, Jacory Harris was still the QB at Miami. That's worth at least 2 INTs and likely one returned for a TD)

    Regarding Michigan:

    As great as Floyd is, he hasn't been that much of a problem against Michigan during his career, he had 1 good game, and 2 average or below games. Speculation is that incoming FR K Matt Wile will handle the punting the first 4 games, although he is a freshman, he does have experience punting. If Michigan loses to ND, I think it will be because of a balanced ND offensive attack and turnovers, not because Floyd goes off (or Teo).

    We obviously disagree about the UM-MSU game, so moving on.

    Why do you think we will lose to Illinois?

    Regarding OSU/Miami:

    Last I read the QB situation at Miami was a battle between Harris and Stephen Morris. I don't think anything has been decided yet.

    Great effort overall, even though I disagree in a few areas.

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  • SpartanTailgate

    SpartanRocky

    um_king said... (original post)

    Regarding Michigan:

    As great as Floyd is, he hasn't been that much of a problem against Michigan during his career, he had 1 good game, and 2 average or below games. Speculation is that incoming FR K Matt Wile will handle the punting the first 4 games, although he is a freshman, he does have experience punting. If Michigan loses to ND, I think it will be because of a balanced ND offensive attack and turnovers, not because Floyd goes off (or Teo).

    We obviously disagree about the UM-MSU game, so moving on.

    Why do you think we will lose to Illinois?

    Regarding OSU/Miami:

    Last I read the QB situation at Miami was a battle between Harris and Stephen Morris. I don't think anything has been decided yet.

    Great effort overall, even though I disagree in a few areas.

    I fully expect the UM guys not to agree with or like my UM predictions. The IL game was a swing game, but I'll get to that in a second

    I think, with your secondary, you have to be concerned with Floyd, even if he hasn't hurt you guys in the past; he's going to be pretty motivated. I just don't see how you can brush him off, historical stats or no.

    IL: Few thoughts; you guys exchanged home Ws the past 2 years, and it's at @IL. Usually you see a bump in production in year 2 of a new system, or if your QB played as a frosh and is in his 2nd year (Barkley, Robinson, Stafford, Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tebow, etc.). IL has both going for it this year. Finally, it's a classic trap game; it's an out-of-division game against an opponent you beat last year in between divisional games against big name opponents in Iowa and Nebraska. It could definitely go either way, but with Iowa, Nebraska and tOSU in the last 1/3 of the season, I can see a bit of a letdown game against the Illini.

    I like those coordinators for IL; Zook figured out he can't coach, so found 2 guys that could. IL's definitely my "surprise" team, along with Iowa, though as more people are paying attention to their very light schedule, they're not so much of a surprise.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

  • SpartanRocky said... (original post)

    I fully expect the UM guys not to agree with or like my UM predictions. The IL game was a swing game, but I'll get to that in a second

    I think, with your secondary, you have to be concerned with Floyd, even if he hasn't hurt you guys in the past; he's going to be pretty motivated. I just don't see how you can brush him off, historical stats or no.

    IL: Few thoughts; you guys exchanged home Ws the past 2 years, and it's at @IL. Usually you see a bump in production in year 2 of a new system, or if your QB played as a frosh and is in his 2nd year (Barkley, Robinson, Stafford, Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tebow, etc.). IL has both going for it this year. Finally, it's a classic trap game; it's an out-of-division game against an opponent you beat last year in between divisional games against big name opponents in Iowa and Nebraska. It could definitely go either way, but with Iowa, Nebraska and tOSU in the last 1/3 of the season, I can see a bit of a letdown game against the Illini.

    I like those coordinators for IL; Zook figured out he can't coach, so found 2 guys that could. IL's definitely my "surprise" team, along with Iowa, though as more people are paying attention to their very light schedule, they're not so much of a surprise.

    About Floyd, true, and he is dangerous, but he did that against terrible secondaries and terribly coached secondaries. The coaching should be improved and more importantly we should be healthy in the secondary (knocks on wood), which we haven't been.

    Illinois as a trap game, I could see, but I think Illinois will struggle with the loss of LeShoure on offense (he is the one that killed us) as well as Martez on defense.

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    SpartanRocky

    um_king said... (original post)

    About Floyd, true, and he is dangerous, but he did that against terrible secondaries and terribly coached secondaries. The coaching should be improved and more importantly we should be healthy in the secondary (knocks on wood), which we haven't been.

    Illinois as a trap game, I could see, but I think Illinois will struggle with the loss of LeShoure on offense (he is the one that killed us) as well as Martez on defense.

    Sure, I think part of Floyd's use against UM is as a decoy; the TE and slot WR had big days against you guys last year. He's dangerous because he makes you alter your gameplan.

    The Nov. games are almost all shots in the dark; we have no clue what the injury situations are going to be for ANY of these teams, and who's having a disappointing year, who catches fire, etc.

    I'm pretty confident in my Sept. predictions, but the later the prediction, the less accurate I'd expect it to be.

    Basically I could totally see you guys beating IL. I think the other 3 Nov. games are pretty close to Ls, but who knows, right? Good lord I can't wait for football.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

  • SpartanRocky said... (original post)

    I fully expect the UM guys not to agree with or like my UM predictions. The IL game was a swing game, but I'll get to that in a second

    I think, with your secondary, you have to be concerned with Floyd, even if he hasn't hurt you guys in the past; he's going to be pretty motivated. I just don't see how you can brush him off, historical stats or no.

    IL: Few thoughts; you guys exchanged home Ws the past 2 years, and it's at @IL. Usually you see a bump in production in year 2 of a new system, or if your QB played as a frosh and is in his 2nd year (Barkley, Robinson, Stafford, Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tebow, etc.). IL has both going for it this year. Finally, it's a classic trap game; it's an out-of-division game against an opponent you beat last year in between divisional games against big name opponents in Iowa and Nebraska. It could definitely go either way, but with Iowa, Nebraska and tOSU in the last 1/3 of the season, I can see a bit of a letdown game against the Illini.

    I like those coordinators for IL; Zook figured out he can't coach, so found 2 guys that could. IL's definitely my "surprise" team, along with Iowa, though as more people are paying attention to their very light schedule, they're not so much of a surprise.

    Secondary wont be the strength of the D but should & is expected to perform at a higher level than last year. With that said, Floyd is very talented & it would not surprise me if he had a good day. Not the sure thing you imply though IMO.

    I have to ask Rocky, how does Floyd's "motivation" factor into the equation?

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