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lol, you've been amazing lately.
This post was edited by fsufsu 17 months ago
I honestly don't know how they punish Miami at all at this point.
I mean, they still broke the rules. If they just didn't give a crap they would still do it. I don't think they will but they have the ammo.
Yeah they did, but they gave themselves a two year bowl ban and the NCAA made a joke of themselves in the investigation process. I don't know how any punishment could be taken seriously at this point.
Miami's president just came out demanding no further penalties. Miami would skate with no scholarship restrictions. USC fans would start blowing up federal buildings.
Like a boss.
University of Miami president Donna Shalala issued a statement Monday evening in regards to the pending NCAA investigation.
Golden is better then Jimbo... I feared it was true. He is going to hoist a crystal ball there - fsufsu
depends on what info is in that 20% that gets throw out. i seriously doubt miami gets much else. most likely gonna have the 2 year bowl ban already served and some schollie reductions. NCAA shit the bed badly in this investigation and will pay the price for it.
somebody needs to police the NCAA its pretty ridiculous what they are allowed to do
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Donna Shalala has more balls than all of Penn State BOT put together.
The government should take over the NCAA.
holy christ. you just found the one way the NCAA could possibly get worse. delete your post before "THEY" see it
Who else is gonna take them over ?
nobody. we need to blow them up and start fresh
If there is a way to do that I'm all for it, the NCAA needs to go
You SC fans are just all class. Kiffin is a great fit for your fanbase.
If you have followed Emmert at all, just how well do you think this will go over? Anyone get the impression he is ok with schools telling him what he will or won't do?
I think he is at the point where he cannot do a damn thing without the NCAA getting sued (again). He doesn't want that.
He has an easy out with Miami because they already self imposed two years of bowl ban. He could probably take a chance and tack on like a 3 scholarship reduction for 3 years and be okay. Anything more than that, he's eff'd.
That's a good point. I thought about it last night, and I think Emmert would have no problem risking him being fired, the NCAA being sued, and disbanned, before he would let anyone get away with publicly slamming him and the NCAA.
The model we have seen over and over again is that if you publicly kiss the NCAA's ass, you will slide by ok (penn state aside, different situation). Wouldn't doubt Emmert having the allegations re-written, with 20% removed, and repeat offender added. People act as if Emmert and the NCAA actually answer to somebody, they do not. I think when all is said and done, Miami fans will be cussing Shalala and calling for her head. There is absolutely no reason to believe that publicly calling out the NCAA is going to end well for you.
Well, if it were 2 years ago, I would agree with you. But now, the public is even more against the NCAA. More importantly, word is that conferences are fed up with the way that the NCAA has gone about business under Emmert. Just look at these cases:
-UNC's fake classes that the NCAA was fine with
-USC's ability to appeal
That is all just within the last year or so. They are in a hole right now that is deep... this is not the time to show how powerful you are.
I think they are just screwed. If they let Miami off light then USC and others are going to scream. Then they have to let Oregon off lightly as well, and then USC is going to scream.
I think they are screwed and the end may be near, but I still think Emmert will go out with guns blazing.
You can't use if/then's
You said it yourself, they (NCAA) can do whatever they want.
Unfortunately only the membership, gov't, or courts can stop the NCAA. The membership won't - they never have in the past. The gov't may. I'm not sure the courts can - we'll see with the PA suit and/or other potentially soon to be coming suits.
There is one other way. The media. The media has the power to get public opinion against the NCAA. But as we are seeing very few in the media care about this. Other than Jay Bilas unfortunately his employer ESPN could care less.
I completely disagree
I think it is at a boiling point right now and you will see conferences push back (supported by the member schools). If I was Swafford, I would be right there with Miami proclaiming shananigans. The length of the ivestigation (nearing 3 year... wtf) has hurt the ACC. Just look at the ACC title game... it got watered down because Miami self imposed a postseason ban for the second year in a row. That should never happen. Investigations should never take more than 6 months let alone 2+ years. It hurts more than just the school being investigated.
Look at it this way the ACC has taken a hit, Nobody wanted to see FSU against GTech a team that finished 6-6, Hey yeah Miami finished 7-5 but lets be real who would FSU rather play Miami or GTech. Now you know why FSU lost $478,000 dollars in ticket sales.
That was crazy I know for a fact that was BS, Hey I'm a Cane fan but nobody wanted to see FSU play against GTech.
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