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A lot of truth there. But your honesty is short sighted and dickish.
I just don't see it happening. They can win their fairshare of games, but I don't see them bringing in the horses to run the table anymore.
Call it what you want, I just don't see it. You want to talk about "forever" then any team can win one 40 years from now, hell Florida Atlantic may turn into a powerhouse. I am talking about the foreseeable future.
the hire after spurrier will be the most important hire in school history from an athletic standpoint.
Funny post is funny, and also once again, very shortsighted.
Are you one of those guys who claimed that Yuri Wright wasn't a "Michigan Man" because of his tweets also?
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You bump this thread when Colorado wins a Natty so you can get a laugh. I will bump it when don't win one so that I can get a laugh. How long will I be laughing before you get one in? Forever is, well forever, so anything is possible but I don't see Colorado winning a natty anytime soon.
Didn't have anything to do with a "Michigan Man", it had to do with Colorado being a fallback program.
So your fan base freaking out about his tweets and then claiming that he wasn't a "Michigan man" was all false? Because that was the reason given for why Michigan stopped recruiting him.
So let me ask you this, did you think Wisconsin would be where they are in 1989 (Alvarez was hired in 1990, went 1-10)? What about Virginia Tech before Beamer? I could go on (yes Rocky already said this but you never addressed it). Have they won a national title? No but LSU has, Miami has, Florida State has, Florida has, etc. and none of them were hot shots in the college football world (yes I realize LSU won a BCS title in 2003) before they made their hires. You need to get out of this train of thought that college football is static. It goes in waves. CU was a damn good program from the 50's-late 70's, was excellent from 1989-2001, and has fallen off. College sports in general go in cycles, just like businesses.
I'm not claiming CU has a very good chance at winning a title, far from that, but you seem to think we have zero chance, which is laughable. I also take it that you've never been to Boulder, because you're speaking like you haven't. CU isn't on the same level as Arizona, ASU, OSU, etc as you claim. It's not the California schools, and you're right that it may be a fallback school if kids don't get into those schools (Cal, USC, UCLA, and Stanford), but there's nothing wrong with that. ASU, Arizona, OSU, etc are fallback schools for kids who can't get into the California schools or CU. CU is a top 20 all time program, quit thinking that CU is some horrible program where we've been like this for 100+ years.
Do you also really think that CU couldn't win a national title with Saban as a coach? Because that's the point of the thread. Honestly, nearly every BCS school *could* win a national title. Schools like Alabama, LSU, etc are far more likely where as schools like Oregon State, Indiana, etc are not very likely, but saying never is a stretch.
Talk to those saying that, not me. Are those guy talking about Michigan Man any different than the Buffs fans claiming sleeping giant?
As I stated, even Florida Atlantic could win one under the "forever" line. Also as I stated, I don't see Colorado doing it in the foreseeable future. You can cry and whine about it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that Colorado is on the outside looking in right now. Their instate talent recognizes this and is leaving the state for other programs.
Wait, Colorado is on the outside looking in right now? Damn man, that's revolutionary. I really thought CU was in contention for the title in the next couple of years!
On paper, Cal would seem to have enough advantages to be able to put a quality product on the field, but they simply don't year after year. Their last Rose Bowl (which they lost btw) was 1959. Nebraska has won something like five NCs in that time span. Cal doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same conversation as Nebraska.
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FAMU? I think UCF will win one in the next 10=15 years...they have a lot of money and are building up their clout in sports.
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Exactly. Colorado just needs the right coach to be relevant again. And joining the P12 almost certainly should help their recruiting because of all the Cali talent they now have a legit shot at.
Holy Sh!t! Colorado still has fans?
Have you ever been to their stadium? One of the most beautiful settings in the country.
That's great but were talking about the future. Cal will out recruit Nebraska every single season going forward, and it will continue to get worse without the big 12 footprint that they used to recruit.
Cal has and has had the players, they are just a competent coach away from being a powerhouse.
No. But on TV it looks awesome. Never forget that hail mary to beat Um. Or when they beat us after calling back a punt return. Colorado like us have made bad hires for the past decade & a half. They can return to prominence with the right hire imo.
Neuheisal wrecked that program. It's never been the same since.
That's just talk. What has changed? Tedford's been there like seven years and has one ten win season. And that includes several somewhat down years for USC. Why is Cal going to be any better tomorrow than they've been for the past 60 years? UCLA, Washington and Utah have as much or more likelihood of winning the P12 and going on to win a natty as Cal. Again, I'm not saying Cal has nothing going for it, but it's laughable to put them ahead of a program like Nebraska that has been nationally relevant for nearly all of the past 50 years.
Edit: I just checked and Tedford's been at Cal for 10 years and had two 10-win seasons (2004 & 2006). His last three seasons he has been 8-5, 5-7 and 7-6. I fail to see what you see that is going to make Cal 2x the program Nebraska is anytime soon.
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I am going to go out on a limb and say every single public, state university in a major conference can win a National Title. Or, at the very least, get to the "Final Four".
Iowa State may be an exception to that rule. But ten years ago if you had said that South Carolina would play in four consecutive Bowl Games, win the SEC East once and be coached by Steve Spurrier, I would have guessed you were insane. Anything could be possible.
Private institutions face much tougher odds. But Stanford went to two consecutive BCS Bowls and Northwestern won the BigTen and played in the Rose Bowl in the 90s.
I still wouldn't give Duke, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, Boston College, Syracuse or Northwestern much of a chance though.
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They wont out recruit us, nor will they ever finish higher than us.
One is the new stadium/facilities they just built, and the fact that tedfords contract will be up soon. Once that happens they will hire a better coach with the new PAC money and their program will soar. Nebraska has nowhere to go with no fertile recruiting base. They're basically on the same level right now with Cal having 1000x more potential to be great.
They have been out recruiting you for the past three seasons, one in which their recruiting coordinator was poached weeks before signing day.
Never, ever assume your team will make a good coaching hire. Especially one who will be better than the guy he is replacing if he is replacing a coach widely considered "good". Odds are, at best, 50/50. 25% is probably more realistic.
A great coaching hire is almost luck.
Did anyone know Jim Harbaugh was going to be a great coach? Has Brian Kelly been any better than Charlie Weis or Weis much better than Willingham? Les Miles has been amazing at LSU, but is he better than Saban? There are 50 schools who would love to upgrade if they knew they could. But they don't know.
And they're still a 7-8 win team. Also, you make it sound like they were doing great until they hired Tedford and he screwed everything up. He's the best coach they've had in my lifetime. Where is it guaranteed that if they replace him the next guy will be better? When was the last time they had a better coach than Tedford?
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