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The biggest thing is that if you keep it illegal yet decriminalize it the biggest issue isn't solved: the fact that jobs can discriminate against me for using it.
Let's face it, getting weed is easy as pie and I've NEVER worried about cops when buying weed. My "maybe I shouldn't be doing this" thoughts have been 99.9% about employment endangerment.
If you make a change but jobs can still discriminate based on illegality then nothing's improved.
Ditto. When Im sober I speed and drive aggressive. When I've been high I drive two under the limit and have hands on 10 and 2 oclock.
That is so true, I remember that back when I blazed
fsufsu said... I've got about 10 great stories on Lane but all you need to know is he will never be a loser, that's for sure.
First, yes of course it should be legal. It's preposterous that it's illegal.
Second, this coming from Pat Robertson is representative of a major shift in public thinking. Pat Robertson is an evangelist and a far right Christian conservative. Even him, who undoubtedly thinks weed is a terrible evil thing sees the futility of keeping it illegal.
Weed can't really be construed as a terrible evil. It's believed by Christian fundamentalists to be something that robs you of your sober mind the Bible calls you to maintain but even a hardcore conservative knows it's benign compared to Alcohol. Alcohol is truly ingratiated into our societal fabric but it may need to be removed at some point.
Some sects around here do the whole avoid caffeine thing for the messing with the mind reason.
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That's religion at its finest and isn't a teaching of Christianity. If those people are doing it because they think it's beneficial health wise that's more of a personal preference. Anyone saying that's doctrine or theology are mistaken.
I avoid coffee because I think its relative and I can get myself going without it. My mom's addicted to caffeine and its not projectable or healthy. Anyways....
Yes, and sometimes going 40 on the interstate causes accidents too. I never had any accidents driving high(and did driving drunk, thankfully nothing major), but still I remember doing some stupid ish driving high. Just boneheaded mistakes.. Just so I don't get killed for driving drunk I was stupid, and no longer do.
Any marijuana test is useless, since it stays in the system for a month. They will have no idea if you got high five minutes ago, or five days ago. I really don't want to share the road with some dude smokin a blizzy, so if we go to "legalizing", we should probably think this through. When I was in college, I wrote a ten page paper on why it should be legal, now at 30 with a kid I have different concerns.
, you were cooler when you came up with your anti-Biblical rhetoric yourself. Getting it from your home room friend is something I won't entertain.
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You post stuff really often that makes you sound dumb and then you generalize it to the rest of us. lol
OK, and apparently you post condescending bs.
Only when people say dumb crap. I said I drive two under and you make some snide comment about how slow rolling on the highway causes accidents and admitted you can't drive, likely sober or high.
Skin needs to thicken.
Your arguement was that you are a better driver stoned than sober, and mine was the dumb post
Who said that? There's no discussing things with a poster like you when I can't even decide what I post. I said I drive more passively and with more attention to detail. Better? You made that up. Yup.
Which part did I misconstrue?
Explained it above. Im not going to spoon feed you.
OK, you are an idiot.
I don't care if we legalize marijuana as long as we:
A) Tax the h*ll out of it.
B) Place restrictions on where it can be smoked, same as cigarettes. In fact, if most places banned it from being smoked in bars, I'd be okay with it. Both smells stick to clothes but people smoking marijuana around you has more of an effect on people around you than just cigarette smoke.
C) Make stricter laws about smoking and driving
I've been told that, all other factors aside such as swerving and such, police are more likely to catch high/drunk people who are driving slowly than speeding less than 5 mph over.
this will sound arrogant, but it's not meant to be....
I'm a substance abuse counselor with two masters degrees (1 in substance abuse counseling, 1 in rehabilitation counseling). My thesis was exactly on this topic. A short version of it is basically the war on drugs (specifically marijuana-which is what my paper was directed towards) is not working AT ALL. The negative consequences of marijuana use (there are plenty of them btw), are not in the same stratosphere as alcohol or tobacco. Is that the reason why it should be legal?....no.
Marijuana is illegal because of political pressure. Thats how it was first illegalized, and since the profits of the marijuana trade did not directly impact white people (racist), it stayed illegal thru the civil rights movements (although marijuana didn't have much to do with blacks).
Anybody seen studies that disregard marijuana's medical relevance?...government BS. Marijuana is completely legitimate in the medicine world. BUT, if we're talking about legalizing it, the positives must HEAVILY outweigh the negatives.
The negative health effects are nowhere near the same as alcohol or tobacco. Yes, marijuana is about 70% more harmful to the lungs thsn tobacco. If you've ever smoked weed before, you know that if you smoke a full cigarettes worth of weed (even shwag) you'll be wasted. Nobody will be smoking a pack a day of joints.
Bottom line is think of the Government money spent on policing, imprisoning, clogging the courts/prisons, etc spent on marijuana. Border patrol money would not change. Subtract that money and then add the money that would be gained by the government controlling production of marijuana. It's really simple when it all boils down, but there are too many idiots.
Any political candidate who says weed should be legal will be scrutinized. Any political candidate who says "We need to keep our kids away from drugs like marijuana!!" will be cheered. Too many robots who don't want to get into the new century. We are in HUGE debt, and we need something to jump start the economy. People will get high no matter what is legal and illegal, might as well make money off something that wouldn't be any worse, health wise, than the caffeine pills you can buy at the gas station...btw, be looking out for the lawyer ads on TV telling u to join in a class action law suit against 5 hour energy.
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All of those can be easily done. Most people have questions about C.
Right now, there are saliva tests that can tell if you have smoked pot within the last 4-6 hours (but if you smoked yesterday, you will test negative). Of course, there will need to be a standard established (i.e. .08), and that is something that we don't have the ability to do in terms of an instant test. No way somebody should get a DUI for having marijuana in their system when they smoked 2 weeks ago. BUT, it can be done. Drug tests are ridiculously complex now. I can tell my clients the exact date when they last smoked. We need that kind of accuracy in an instant test. No question this can be accomplished (which means more jobs available also).
you forgot to say [didn't read]...Honestly, I wouldnt have read it.
It's not like all Dems are pro pot or anything and Obama himself has said it should be illegal. Plus I never had trouble dodging Johnny Law with it but then I had to grow up and get a job and they drug test so... Good bye Mary Jane, hello Jim Beam. Unless my company stops drug testing, legalization doesn't really help me out...
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