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They should get double IMO.
Alot of your examples are based on preconceived political opinions and not the facts.
USPS - isnt "heavily subsidized" most of their money came from 1st Class Mail (Internet and PDF files have hurt that revenue stream) An unsustainable pension system enforced by, ironically, a Republican congress is also hurting them.
Social Security (can be fixed by adjusting the payouts or moving the eligibility age up.)
Fannie Mae and Freddie, are just one of the dozens of variables that led to the collapse. Fannie and Freddie didn't create an unregulated market to sell Credit Default Swaps and Options.
Obviously Medicare and Medicaid are in trouble, but setting up State-Insurance exchanges to purchase private insurance isn't a model similar to Medicare.
AMTRAK - you got one right.
War on Drugs - you got that right
Stimilus bills havent been as productive as they are in theory, but I don't think you have analyzed any econometric data that can confirm they show "no sign of working"
Cash For Clunkers - even "American cars" are mostly produced in Mexico and other countries, not sure that was designed to be a "buy American policy"
No Child Left Behind - you got another right.
Fair Housing Act - not sure how a law passed in 1968 had any role in the 2007 crisis. Financial markets are completely different animals these days. A mixture of over and under regulation created the financial crisis.
Federal Reserve - don't need a "reserve with backing" when you have a fiat currency. So not sure what you mean there. They played a role in the Financial crisis though.
I think NASA had a pretty good run of things as well. Man on the moon, lots of inventions that worked into daily lives, etc... FDA is nice to have as well. After all, I like not having to wonder if the steak I am buying at the supermarket is safe to eat or not. I can just take it for granted that it is. The whole clean water to drink thing is kind of nice too. Thank you EPA.
EPA allows the widespread use of fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides that European Environmental Advisories consider poison.
I'm not getting into this argument, and I'm not bashing NASA, but I really have a hard time putting a value on Neil's walk on the moon.
That guy is seriously a crazy person
So we are going to raise your taxes and if you manage not to die before you are almost 70 you will get some of the money back, assuming of course you were never successful in life.
I agree these things need to be done to save SS, but it kinda gets to the point of, what are we "saving" here? A program in which we take money from people their whole lives of which they will only receive a portion back and for many this will be for maybe the last 5-10 years of life if that? What the hell is the point?
Also Democrats have been claiming for years that SSI is in fact Insurance, if means testing comes into effect it becomes nothing more than another entitlement program.
Agree here. The Europeans do a much better job at keeping food safe and clean and healthy... horse meat scandal aside, lol.
The fact that it is actually a chore to find healthy food, particularly at restaurants, in the US is pathetic.
That fact that fast food can sell hamburgers that have very little true beef in them is ridiculous too.
We need to get more serious about food regulations. Fake food being sold as the real thing should be illegal.
I am not so sure that it wouldn't be permanent, once this becomes the new way of doing things and people get used to it, once the baby boomers are gone the government is likely to take any future surpluses, this time not in the shadow of massive long term liabilities, and use them elsewhere. The temptation to keep the money piling up for the feds will be too great IMO.
You still have to outlive both the age requirement and your contribution before you get more than you paid in. It's all pretty macabre, it's the government relying and hoping that x number of people kick the bucket in order to keep what amounts to a ponzi scheme afloat.
If it is truly Insurance it should be optional. The existing pay in-pay out system can be left in effect for those that want and others should be able to take their money elsewhere if they can stomach the risk.
The USPS isn't government ran anymore... And aren't they tied still to government salary requirements but don't receive taxes?
Shouldn't have the benefits in first place, pensions suck the life out of corporations
Probably typing this on your I-phone while searching for the nearest Gas Station via the Global Positioning Network
Many of the benefits from NASA and the US military aren't that tangible, but there are benefits.
This post was edited by rms02d 16 months ago
Enormous benefits. And you never know what major breakthroughs for mankind could be found. It is not natural for humans to just sit on our hands and not explore what is around us.
Not exploring space because it is expensive is an incredibly moronic argument. Our government wastes tons of money on tons of things, but NASA isn't one of them. Although I am sure like anything else it could be more efficient.
Can't argue with you there, I don't agree with your politics, but you are a smart guy and I respect your intelligence. I think more personal freedom and a much more limited government is a better 'merica. Freedom to succeed, freedom to fail, but at least you have the choice...
This entire thread reminded me of this video. Listen very carefully to what he is saying.
I know I'm late getting back here, but I agree with you on those items! I said to begin with that I wasn't bashing NASA. All I'm saying is that too much is made of foot touching moondust. I've always been fascinated with NASA, but they could have done all that without actually walking on the moon.
I'm a staunch conservative, and I can see the value (at one time) in most of those programs listed. There are only a few that I wonder why we ever wasted time creating. The rest were, at one time or another, vital. USPS is a good example. I don't want invalids starving or old people being shoved out of the way. I know welfare isn't 90% of our money problem. This is why I don't get in many of these arguments. I think the waste should be measured with some modifier of relativity, then attack the programs that are, as a percentage of their allocation, least efficient.
Just wanted to be clear that I don't hate NASA, the country, Neil Armstrong, Lance Armstrong, or strong arms. Just saying that little walk is kind of meh to me. Then again, I wasn't born til 77.
And you are okay with that?
If you are working then you don't need food stamps. Get your priorities in order and make the funds work. Quit having kids if you know you can't support them etc
If we were to approach it this way, military spending would be one of the first things on the chopping block, and that's an absolute no-no to so many politicians nowadays. As much as an overall "efficiency" view might help, it's a political no-go.
You don't seem to understand the concept that people can be working full time and still not earn enough to support themselves. This isn't a question of people being lazy or squandering their money - until every working person in America makes a living wage, there will be people working full time who still need additional money to merely subsist.
Look at Wal-Mart's business model. They deliberately pay their employees so little that the government is forced into indirectly subsidizing Wal-Mart by providing aid necessary for survival to the employees.
Get a second or third job
I'm sure there are several who work multiple jobs so they don't have to depend on the government
This post was edited by Jeff4SC 16 months ago
Thats easy for you and me and alot of folks to sit here and say but its not reality. shouldn't the ones working be rewarded or have incentive to stay working. Currently most programs are set up for the person to fail. Why bust your ass 60 hours a week and scrape by when you could quit working and be taken care of. You have to make working a priority and stripping someone of all the help the minute they find a job seems foolish. They need to make the people realize working is a good thing. Right now you could argue its the other way around.
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