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Are they the last of their kind? Jeter probably would have played for somebody else if he wasn't a Yankee, but are these two the last lifers for one team in MLB?
They're like 300 game winners. Can't see it happening again. Maybe Joe Mauer.
Seriously, take juice out of the equation...20 HRs/year for 20 years is amazing and that only gets you to 400.
Probably not. I wouldn't be surprised if Justin Verlander ended his career as a Tiger, Ryan Braun probably won't go anywhere, and Dustin Pedroia will be a Boston Red Sox unless he gets traded against his will. It all depends on the situation of the team and the competitiveness of the player though.
I can see Jason Heyward and Freddi Freeman staying with the Braves for their careers.. (Brian Mccann too)
Especially Heyward considering his from the ATL area... Braves are good with longevity, Maddox, Glavin and Smoltz.. Oh and there's NO WAY they ever let Kimbrel go
Danielle Hunter, Jamario Rasco, Anthony FREAK Johnson.. DL wrecking crew of 2013.
I hope all of this comes true.
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Mccan is gone after this year.
Not unless somebody else buys the braves, current ownership is way to cheap to pony up for those guys long term. Heyward will likely demand $100M+ on anything longer than 5 years. Freeman hasn't been a top tier 1B so I could see him staying around for a while. But he's also not the type of franchise player that you want to commit to for a long time either.
And Kimbrel, ugh, signing closers long term is usually one of the worst decisions - financially. They just have such a short shelf life - only 5 closers have 400 career saves. Its very rare that a closer can stick around for 10 years - let alone stay at the top of the game.
Agree on Heyward and Freeman but I think McCann heads to AL to DH
My gut tells me Giancarlo Stanton stays with the Marlins his whole career.
"People always ask me if I wish I were bigger. I tell them no. I always wanted to be a miniature badass." Dustin Pedroia
Yall need to let McCann leave via free agency this year and thank him for his time in Atl. No way in hell I give a 4-5 year contract (probably more than V Mart money) to C that cant DH on his days off and is blocked at 1B by Freeman. Pretty soon he will be a 115 game a year C and you cant be paying that type of player around 15 million. Use that money to lock up Heyward and Upton.
He's 23 years old. If it weren't for his eye issues last year he would have hit closer to the .282 from his rookie year as a 21 year old and put up more than his 23 HRs. Not to mention his bag work is gold glove caliber.
Is he going to be Joey Votto? No, but there aren't many who hit like that and play 81 games/season in a field that plays like one for 13-14 year olds.
Also, the Braves can't get hammered with LHPs every series with a better mix in the lineup. Some people aren't into RHP vs LHP splits, but it's significant when it's LHP vs LHB.
Freeman has hit .373 with a ton of HRs so far this spring and he's hold glove caliber.. Why in the world would he take a pay cut to DH? Makes no sense.
Freeman is one of the worst defensive 1B in the league according to fangraphs and well below avg by the fielding bible.
Imo the braves have simmons, heyward, freeman that will be there for the long run. Don't be surprised if Heyward and freeman signs extensions this year. There best friends and roomates and enjoy playing with each other. I see all three of those guys as braves lifers.
Got any sabermetrics that show saved runs for picking throws out of the dirt?
Because there isn't anyone better at that in the game.
Agreed I like Freeman and think he will continue to get better. But you are also right in saying he's not Joey Votto.
In general, franchises do not commit to first basemen that aren't in the Joey Votto-category for their entire career. It just doesn't make financial success to do it. If it so happens that Freeman is willing to take "hometown discounts" for his entire career to stay in Atlanta, then it will happen. But otherwise I think it is unlikely he spends his entire 10-12 year career there.
Hell, even Berkman didn't stay with the Astros his entire career because he wanted to move to a contender and the Astros weren't willing to pay the premium it was needed to get his to stay there for his entire career.
FYI you spelled half of those names wrong
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Lol, you OBVIOUSLY don't watch his games. Seriously, no way you would post that if you did, fact.
Speaking to you, el guap
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He's a big sabremetrics guy.
I will say Freddie is a bit weak to his right and coming off the bag from holding runners. But his bag work is straight up ridiculous.
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He saved soooo many runs from terrible throws at the SS position and Uggla.. Sabremetrics only work for hitting stats anyways, IMO.
Kimbrel will stay in ATL as long as they will have him. He also just got married to one of my friends who will want to stay close to home as well. He doesnt care to much about the money, he didnt grow up with much, but doesn't spent it like other pro athletes. He is is a "country boy"
Pretty sure fielding metrics take into accounts scoops. Look I probably watch ten Braves games a year so I don't watch him but every site that keeps defensive stats has him below average or awful,17th of 18 that log enough innings to qualify. Fangraphs suggest to take a two or three year sample but its been two years of bad stats for him.
Also the Gold Glove is a joke. Palmerio won it being a DH and playing 1B in inter league play. Jeter got one a few years ago and he has 0 range.
Pretty sure UZR is based on hit balls, not thrown. "He had 188 balls hit in his zone, and he made the play on 138 of them."
Just going out on a limb here, but I'm going to guess Freeman had a couple more than 188 baseballs thrown to him at 1B.
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