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On now - interesting response
It's very hard to measure "national brand". You can throw TV deals out there, but those reflect the whole conference. You could talk about merchandise sales, but that's mostly regional. There would be almost no way to argue either side with facts. Both are very well known programs. Alabama has a better tradition (according to most) and ranks higher all time (according to most), but that doesn't necessarily mean bigger national brand. Interesting topic, though.
Somewhere else just published that OSU had the largest fanbase, like last week. Huge school in an area with a big population... yup, popular.
Time and change will surely (truly) show
How firm thy friendship ... OHIO!
Cowherds stance is that "Alabama will not leave the region to play an OOC game on the west coast or west of the Mississippi."
My thoughts are that Alabama really does not need to open new recruiting areas by traveling - so there is no benefit to going west IMO.
Does that hurt their national brand - probably
But it also hurts bamas national brand that other SEC average teams ride Alabama's coat tail of success by associating Alabama's success as the conferences success.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Leppycole 19 months ago
We've done (Penn State) and will do (Michigan State) home and homes with the Big 10, but I guess Cowherd only wants Pac 12 for some reason?
I like your style..We have played games on the west coast in the past but who does travel all over the country on a yearly basis to play good teams.. ND is the only school that I know for sure will play anybody anywhere.
Without self-knowledge there is no individuality
Ohio Population 11.2 million
Alabama 4.8 million
More people have ties or live in Ohio than people with Ties or live in Alabama
Ohio State 64k
Its pretty simple. College football is state and school pride based
OSU is probably a better national brand but it seems that Bama is doing okay. Why do they need a national brand when they get most of who they want from the most fertile recruiting region in the country? National brand is an overrated concept. How's ND's national brand been helping them lately? LSU barely leaves the state of LA and does fine. National brand is a discussion that talking heads use. Fans and coaches overall don't give a damn. The best teams have the ability to go anywhere and get recruits. Bama may not get a ton of recruits from outside the southeast but they get kids they really press for. See Trey Depriest. OSU obviously should've worried more about home than the national brand
"According to most"? I think you mean "as a matte of fact".
New York Times did the study
If you add up these results across all 210 markets, the three most popular teams are the three that also usually have the largest home attendance: Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. (Ohio State is ranked first in the country with about 3.1 million fans.)
This post was edited by Bill Cutting 19 months ago
We are legion, son.
You've also gotta think, we're a basketball powerhouse too. And we have a lot more population, and enrollment
Why, because OSU has a bunch of tatooed students looking smoked out, walking up and down a strip filled bars that is basically on campus. Or is it because you may see an ocasional movie star on the strip.
We went to Pennsylvania in 2011 and Dallas, Texas in 2012.
Cowherd is really losing it lately.
Need a hug?
Yeah, and that whole trip TO PASADENA worked out pretty well. Shut up, Cowherd.
I am lost on this. Not even being mean. I'm just completely missing your point.
Is it just to jab at OSU campus life or the students? If so, step your game up. If not, please explain further.
I think you need to re-read my post.
Who wore the tux from 92 until Saban got there?
not sure what you mean....here is the breakdown and NY Times article.
Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Florida again
Again I think you need you need re-read my post veeeerrrrrrry carefully and then make sure to read the post I quoted and you will see how misplaced your original response to me was.
Point proven, thank you.
And we went to Pasadena in 2000 and Oklahoma in 2002. Went to Hawaii twice after that, that's pretty far. As you said, went to Penn State and Dallas the last couple years. We're also going to East Lansing in a few years.
It makes more sense for us to play neutral site games in ATL though. It's closer and helps more with recruiting. We still play tough teams though as we play VT next year and WVU in 2014 in ATL.
Regardless, I think Ohio State is a bigger national brand because they are the only major school in a huge state and the school's enrollment is massive. They churn out a lot more grads than we do.
Cool for tOSU.
But I'll take our program then, now, and in the future.
Cowherd also stated two weeks ago that "offensive lines are overrated" then turns around two days ago and stated "offensive lines are very underrated".
He's doing what he's supposed to, which is generate discussion/arguments and ratings.
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