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These are some of the same passes ND defenders missed picking off last year. This year the defense is better and defenders were actually turning around at thrown balls. Denard has zero accuracy. What we learned last week is he has just as little pocket presense.
Golson was worse. He threw two picks in about a quarter and a half against Michigan before being replaced by Tommy Rees.
Golson is a red-shirt freshman starting just his 4th game. You compare that to a senior, starting for the 2nd straight season, and was a heisman candidate?
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Glad you agree.
Correct, I do agree. That Golson threw 2 interceptions in less than one half. Your "Superman" threw 4 interceptions and fumbled. How is Golson worse?
He played for like 1 quarter. What does it say about your team that another team could have 6 turnovers, 1 missed fieldgoal, tons of penalties and you still barely beat them.
We are college football
Denard had a bad game, maybe the worst of his career. And he can file it away with all his great games and victories. That includes three 200/200 games, a Sugar Bowl win and, oh yeah, three wins over ND. Golson can file this game away with the Purdue game from two weeks prior, the other game he's been pulled from in his first four. When you are consistently pulled by your HC and replaced with Tommy Rees, you aren't a good QB.
Wow. Golson is going to be a hell of a player. I hate ND as much as the next guy but come on man.
Based on what? Denard was not recruited to play in Al Borges' West Coast offense. He belongs in a spread. Go back and look at how good he was in 2010, in Rich Rod's offense. Denard is doing his best to adapt and has had some very good performances, but to some extent it's like trying to force a square peg into a round hole. Compare that to Everett Golson, who was recruited by BK to play in BK's offense. Despite Tommy Rees' problems last year, BK didn't turn to Golson but instead to another backup QB who also struggled. And this year, in the only two close games ND has had, BK has been forced to pull him and go back to Rees. So please tell me, what has Golson done to demonstrate he will someday be a good QB?
I guess the same it said about Mich last year when ND had 5 turnovers... Or the year before when ND had 3 turnovers.
Scored 4 touchdowns...in a single game. Polk High!
Denard is a rb playing qb. Keep him in the pocket and force him to throw and good things will happen...for the other team.
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Golson is just a bad QB. When he accomplishes anything with his arms or legs, feel free to let me know.
The last time the series between Michigan and Notre Dame took a break - a long long break....the Irish won, it appears history repeats itself.
After reading this thread, it's kinda sad the series is taking a break...the discourse is rather heated - like a real rivalry.
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"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
He is a true soph with 4 career starts on a 4-0 team in the top 10. He led ND to a win over MSU....something Denard has yet to do.
Don't worry, next year Denard will be gone and Hoke will be able to start a qb that can pass.
Leading into this year's game, we had won 3 in a row and 5 out of the past 6. We finally dropped a game because of way too many stupid turnovers. It happens. We weren't going to win every game forever. Things will return to normal when we beat them next year in Ann Arbor.
It is a good rivalry. Me and a buddy of mine that is a Mich fan have been every year since 97 with the exception of 2 years. I am confident they will continue to play, just not as often. It will probably some sort of rotation with Purdue and MSU.
...and ND dropped the 2 previous "because of turnovers".
It reminds me a little of our "arch enemy", the gutties. Lots of hate, not much respect..and those a-holes are only a mere 12 miles away. How would you like that?
MSU scored 3 points. Unless Golson plays defense, he had nothing to do with that.
And you're right about next year for UM. We will be moving forward with a QB who better fits our offense. Unfortunately for ND, you will be stuck with Golson and Rees.
LOL, the fans have always been great with the exception of a few students/younger fans.
No. In 2010 you lost because Denard smoked your ass with the longest run from scrimmage ever in ND Stadium and a game winning drive you couldn't stop. Last year, you lost because your "elite" secondary couldn't defend his passes in the 4th quarter. Your hearts were ripped out both times by Denard.
Golson and ND put up 20 on MSU...something Denard has yet to do.
ND fans are happy to be "stuck with" Golson....and Gunner Kiel, and Zaire.
I have to agree, all my experiences with Michigan fans have been great..both before and after the games. Much like the Irish - so I can see why it's a great match up on the field and the culture of the fans.
So the turnovers only play a part when Mich has them? w/jw. Three turnovers by ND in 2010 and Mich still had to score with :27 to take the lead. Five turnover by ND and Mich still had to score to take the lead in the final seconds last year.
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