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that the bottom half of the PAC-12 is better than the bottom half of the SEC???
What an idiot...
One of the grandfathers of the spread doesns depth and new targeting rules.
Well, the 2 worst teams from each conference last year square off in Week 1. Guess we'll find out.
USC vs Auburn?
I'd listen to his argument if I wasn't so busy writing a book about adults that wish they were pirates.
"So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth."... Rev. 3:16
Not sure why anyone expects coaches in other conferences to concede any argument on conference strength. Every single one of them would flip their opinion tomorrow if they were in the SEC and any SEC coach who switched conferences would do the same.
That said: at "It's crazy. It's ridiculous. We have old men in bifocals trying to make a split second decision."
Ehh... I think #'s 7-9 aren't too bad but 10-12 (Utah, WSU and Colorado) are absolutely dreadful.
Didn't Mizzou kill some Pac team last year?
Also......Congrats Who gives a damn about the bottom feeders?
If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
I agree with Mike Leech. The knows man football.
If he's wrong its not by much. Bottom 4-5 sec programs are pitiful
It depends on what exactly you are talking about. Every school in the Pac-12 has been successful at some point on a national level in the last 30 years.
You can't say that about the SEC, but we are talking 30 years. Washington and Colorado won split titles, WSU has been to the Rose Bowl, Arizona State had an undefeated regular season, Oregon State went 11-1 under Erickson, Cal had great teams under Bruce Snyder and made noise early under Tedford, Utah had the 12-0 team under Meyer and beat Bama in the Sugar Bowl, Oregon has been to Rose Bowls and played for a title, Arizona had the Desert Swarm years, USC, UCLA was knocking on the door several years back (lost to Miami, right?), Stanford has had great teams...
Programs go up and down in that league. Everybody has a chance.
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I wouldn't argue that opinion based on last season.
Yes Mizzou beat ASU with their backup QB, but the bottom of the SEC was as bad as it has ever been last season.
Pitiful is a strong word
Tennesse- has had their downfall in the last 10 years but it would only take 1 or 2 solid seasons for them to be considered "elite" again.
Vandy- has two back to back 9 win seasons
Kentucky- has been terrible, but is on pace to be a competitve football team.
Ole Miss (my team)- have rode the roller coaster from good to terrible and are now back on track to being a very competitve team in the west.
Arkansas- terrible year last year, but were competing for the west just 2 years ago
Auburn- has won a NC, should'nt really be in this discussion. Just had a horrific year.
Mississippi State- as much as i hate them, they have had 3 straight winning seasons.
I understand that you're probably taking about bottom feeder programs historically, but as of right now,I think the gap is bigger than you think.
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