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Good to see your selective reading skills are at the top of their game. I'll pick out some choice quotes for you, and then you can continue arguing about how the government's going to take away your children:
"Of course, parents can and should raise their children with their own values. But they should be able to do so in a community that provides safe places to play, quality food to eat, terrific schools to attend, and economic opportunities to support them."
"So those of you who were alarmed by the ad can relax. I have no designs on taking your children. Please keep your kids! But I understand the fear. We do live in a nation where slaveholders took the infants from the arms of my foremothers and sold them for their own profit. We do live in a nation where the government snatched American Indian children from their families and “re-educated” them by forbidding them to speak their language and practice their traditions. But that is not what I was talking about, and you know it."
In essence you, CMXI and the woman from MSNBC.
Could you provide a quote of me saying I want to force anyone to do anything?
Oh good gosh. She's invoking slavery to make her point? Wow, stupid is stupid.
If you want provide a safe place for your children to grow up, sacrifice and make it happen. It's not the responsibility of others to provide these things for your children. They are your children. I see self-sacrifice is something completely lost on most of the left.
It says that liberalism calls for more governmental involvement and talks about conservatism legislating morality. In the context of the United States today, I'd say both of those descriptions are spot on.
Keyword: "loving family" - that doesn't imply two parents. You can have a loving family of multiple parents, you can have a loving family of aunts and uncles, it doesn't matter as long as you have love. A happy, loving family is not exclusive to arrangements of one man and one woman only.
Besides, if you're lucky enough to grow up a loving family, appreciate it, but don't assume that the family unit in this country doesn't need to be worked on to address current realities. With this country's divorce rate, instances of child abuse, and increasing class divides, a stable, loving family isn't a guarantee by any means. We, as a community, owe a responsibility not to turn our backs on kids in need of role models and parental figures.
You know she's not just talking about the household, right? She's talking about parks and playgrounds and neighborhoods, all of it. That takes self-sacrifice OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
How about mind your own business and let people raise their children how they see fit.
No it doesn't, it takes an oppressive government that takes money from a few for the benefit of the "community." self-sacrifice is doing whatever needs to be done to take care of your children.
If you can't afford them, don't have them. A person earning minimum wage, should probably not be having kids. Sometimes it takes self sacrifice before you have them as well.
Which further denigrates the traditional family unit, but I guess that is the idea after all. All for progress, right? Never mind that civilization has existed for over 7,000 years thanks to the traditional family unit, but you liberals are right, that's not good enough.
Agreed. I think the clear solution to the problem is to shut down things like planned parenthood, make sure birth control isn't readily available, ban abortion, and ban the marriages of couples who can't reproduce but might be willing to adopt.
Please tell me you are being sarcastic.....
Of course he is...Get a new meter, dude
What are you even talking about? I talk about wanting to be a part of a safe, enriching, fun community and you make it about government intervention? I'm starting to think you just hate your neighbors. Or just people on general.
planned parenthood is the only obvious solution IMO.
or darwin, I wish that fvck would start earning his keep.
On this board......no telling
Fun fact...Darwin is buried in a church, Westminster Abbey in fact. Irony?
Only if you view his observations and inferences as somehow anti-religious. I don't.
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